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 Woodsheal "Jacobite" garb 20th July 09, 02:28 PM
 David White Thanks Brian,
Excellent... 20th July 09, 02:37 PM
 Draelore Very informative. Thanks... 20th July 09, 04:22 PM
 SFCRick great set of photos 20th July 09, 04:40 PM
 KFCarter Really appreciate these pics,... 20th July 09, 06:12 PM
 dfmacliam Excellent post! I am glad you... 20th July 09, 07:51 PM
 thescot Brian, it appears in the... 21st July 09, 08:47 AM
 Colonel MacNeal Woodsheal,
It looks like the... 21st July 09, 10:37 PM
 puddlemuddle Here is one form when I was... 23rd July 09, 11:53 AM
 puddlemuddle Also note that I don't have a... 23rd July 09, 11:54 AM
 JRB Great kit, Brian. How was... 24th August 09, 07:23 PM
 dfmacliam Of the tartans you wear....... 25th August 09, 03:52 PM
 dfmacliam They are nice.... I like the... 25th August 09, 04:30 PM
 am1745 Nice one, where did you get... 27th August 09, 05:31 AM
 Galloglass thay twa must hae been lairds... 24th September 09, 05:34 PM
 andyfg Brian, what an interesting... 24th September 09, 07:21 PM
 Ancienne Alliance Most interesting !
Thank... 25th September 09, 04:31 AM
 dfmacliam I find that to be true with a... 25th September 09, 03:02 PM
 Kilted Rogue I will chime in here for .02... 25th September 09, 04:50 PM
 Jack Daw Latter-day movies are showing... 29th September 09, 10:44 AM
 jmercier I think that's what i'll be... 24th November 09, 09:36 AM
 Deathbybagpipes Just a question, how is this... 2nd February 10, 07:42 PM
 Deathbybagpipes It's just a vest, of brown... 9th February 10, 03:29 PM
 Deathbybagpipes And I wasn't really going for... 11th February 10, 07:54 AM
 Erikm Any good places for bag hose? 15th February 10, 04:45 PM
 Erikm Sorry I am note sure what... 16th February 10, 08:25 PM
 Sir William Mismatched tartans are... 21st March 10, 05:51 AM
 Woodsheal Agree with everything Sir... 21st March 10, 07:22 AM
 Sir William I'll second Woodsheal about... 21st March 10, 02:12 PM
 creagdhubh You look great!!!:D 21st March 10, 03:07 PM
 Erikm Thanks very much :) 4th April 10, 12:54 AM
 charliec3006 Hey, Woodsheal, love the... 29th April 10, 06:22 PM
 Kilted Rogue I just got a pair of Fugawee... 7th May 10, 05:28 PM
 Erikm I found some nice 18th... 8th May 10, 03:29 AM
 Andrew Green I have seen those photos... 9th May 10, 10:27 PM
 charliec3006 Thanks Ken, but I tryed... 13th May 10, 05:51 PM
 charliec3006 Ken, don't let me put you off... 18th May 10, 04:07 PM
 Sir William When I saw Missy last April... 27th January 11, 06:10 AM
 Jack Daw I have a couple of long... 6th February 11, 11:08 AM
 The Bear Does anyone know where to get... 18th February 11, 08:19 AM
 creagdhubh Woodhseal,
Have you seen... 18th February 11, 08:38 AM
 Captain_Cogle Sorry, forgot one.
... 18th February 11, 01:11 PM
 llyd The current simplicity... 18th February 11, 05:21 PM
 llyd Yaah...not gonna shear a... 18th February 11, 07:25 PM
 llyd All I did was post a bit of... 18th February 11, 08:46 PM
 Erikm I know Woodsheal told me alot... 21st February 11, 11:27 AM
 kilted hillbilly What a great thread! Most... 4th March 11, 06:43 AM
 Hothir Ethelnor I recently made a Jacobite... 4th April 11, 06:34 AM
 Hothir Ethelnor Have you worn the belted... 4th April 11, 11:32 AM
 Erikm Not to change the subject... 4th April 11, 03:20 PM
 Hothir Ethelnor Yep unless you can make it... 4th April 11, 04:28 PM
 Hothir Ethelnor That's helpful, yes pointing... 5th April 11, 11:20 AM
 The Bear Anyone know a good place to... 19th April 11, 12:39 PM
 Woodsheal Well done, Matt! 18th August 11, 03:28 PM
 Erikm Not sure if your wanting to... 31st August 11, 08:55 PM
 LANCER1562 I read this rhread from start... 4th September 11, 10:11 PM
 MacHenderson Speaking of Rob Roy, I found... 8th September 11, 01:53 PM
 Erikm I have been also wondering... 8th September 11, 06:04 PM
 Erikm Thank you :) I have also... 8th September 11, 06:46 PM
 Erikm Re: "Jacobite" garb 21st September 11, 10:11 PM
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 Matt Richards THANKS! Those look perfect! 6th June 12, 03:16 PM
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20th July 09, 02:28 PM
#1
"Jacobite" garb
Thanks to the mods for initiating this forum! I'll start the ball rolling....
We occasionally hear mention of "Jacobite" items of clothing, be it "Jacobite Jackets" or "Jacobite Shirts." The problem here is that the period of the Jacobite Risings in Scotland encompassed the period from 1689 to 1746, and fashions changed and evolved quite a bit during that stretch of years (even in the "backwards" Highlands!).
Here's a look from the beginning of the period, with belted plaid, hodden grey doublet, and woad-dyed blue bonnet:

And here's one fromthe tail-end of the period, the `45 Rising, with philabeg, tartan coat, and indigo-dyed bonnet (indigo imports got cheaper in the intervening years) with the white cockade (not worn in earlier risings):

Quite a different look between the two extremes of the Jacobite era...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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20th July 09, 02:37 PM
#2
Thanks Brian,
Excellent examples!
Clan Lamont!
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20th July 09, 02:46 PM
#3
Brian,
If you have a photo of yourself in just shirt sleeves I'm sure a number of members of XMTS would be interested to see exactly what a true Jaobite Era shirt really looks like
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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20th July 09, 02:58 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Panache
Brian,
If you have a photo of yourself in just shirt sleeves I'm sure a number of members of XMTS would be interested to see exactly what a true Jaobite Era shirt really looks like
Cheers
Jamie
Here's one, though not that clear: a poor highland "humbly" who can't afford any weapons and has been issued a half-pike!
The shirt appears white but is actually a tan, unbleached linen. Wool shirts were also common, and poor lads like this would layer shirts for warmth (not being able to afford tailored jackets and such). Knotted neckerchiefs are mentioned in period (17th C.) sources.
The shirt does NOT have lacing, and buttons at the throat. Shirts of the period can have falling or band collars, and are an item that did not change much (or at all) during the Jacobite era.

Note the simple leather "cuarans" or highland moccasins....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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20th July 09, 03:00 PM
#5
Thanks Brian.
One more question though
How do the cuffs attach?
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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20th July 09, 03:02 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Panache
Thanks Brian.
One more question though
How do the cuffs attach?
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
The cuffs can button like a modern shirt, or have simple "flattened dumb-bell" shaped "cuff links" of pewter or lead....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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22nd July 09, 08:39 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Here's one, though not that clear: a poor highland "humbly" who can't afford any weapons and has been issued a half-pike!
The shirt appears white but is actually a tan, unbleached linen. Wool shirts were also common, and poor lads like this would layer shirts for warmth (not being able to afford tailored jackets and such). Knotted neckerchiefs are mentioned in period (17th C.) sources.
The shirt does NOT have lacing, and buttons at the throat. Shirts of the period can have falling or band collars, and are an item that did not change much (or at all) during the Jacobite era..
Woodsheal:
would you say that the shirt pattern, at "http://pages.videotron.com/fldelyse/Patterns.html" (Pattern # NFH 18001 , 18th Century French style Man's Shirt ) would "fit" as Jacobite garb?
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30th July 09, 11:38 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by jhockin
Woodsheal:
would you say that the shirt pattern, at "http://pages.videotron.com/fldelyse/Patterns.html" (Pattern # NFH 18001 , 18th Century French style Man's Shirt ) would "fit" as Jacobite garb?
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Just realized I never answered your post. Sorry! But, yes, that's an ideal shirt pattern. Here's the website:
http://pages.videotron.com/fldelyse/Patterns.html
Last edited by Woodsheal; 30th July 09 at 11:51 AM.
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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30th January 10, 12:02 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Here's one, though not that clear: a poor highland "humbly" who can't afford any weapons and has been issued a half-pike!
The shirt appears white but is actually a tan, unbleached linen. Wool shirts were also common, and poor lads like this would layer shirts for warmth (not being able to afford tailored jackets and such). Knotted neckerchiefs are mentioned in period (17th C.) sources.
The shirt does NOT have lacing, and buttons at the throat. Shirts of the period can have falling or band collars, and are an item that did not change much (or at all) during the Jacobite era.
Note the simple leather "cuarans" or highland moccasins....
what kind of belt would I highlander like this have? or would you just use a rope of some kind to secure the kilt?
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30th January 10, 11:38 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by KiltPunk
what kind of belt would I highlander like this have? or would you just use a rope of some kind to secure the kilt?
A wide leather belt with any period-style buckle, or thong ties. (I suppose a rope would work, too, though leather was probably more prevalent than hemp in the Highlands!)
Here are a couple of decent belts:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=190
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=191
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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