Women and Kilt Wearing

[Jeremiah]

I do like a mini hip hugger in tartan. Even a slightly longer version. There more Fashion and feminine fun. There not a kilt in the true sence but allow a woman ( my wife included) to wear her family tartan but still look feminine.

Which is precisely my point as well, women may have adopted trousers, but the shape, cut, and style was altered for women.

[NewKilt]

I have no problem with women wearing kilted skirts, or minikilts. However, I dislike the idea of a women wearing a man's kilt and a sporran. To me this is cross-dressing, and I do not approve of it - whether it is done by a man or a women.

Darrell

[Riverkilt]

I have no clue on what's "correct."

I do know that the first time my lady encountered a Utilikilt booth she walked away wearing an Olive original UK.

When she's with me wearing her UK original she NEVER wears panties...that's her choice, not my request.

She sure is a wonderful lady...

No way would I question her desire to buy and wear a UK

First Highland Games she went to with me she wore one of my old gathered tartan SportKilts. The gathers made it look more like a dress than a kilt anyway.

She sure is a wonderful lady...

Yes dear, whatever you wanna wear is cool with me....

She sure is a wonderful lady...
Ron

[Space Moose]

Which is precisely my point as well, women may have adopted trousers, but the shape, cut, and style was altered for women.

Name too?

There are many types of pants and shirts that are essentially identically made for a man or woman, just shaped slightly differently.

Why are the rules for kilts made identically any different than the other clothes that that were traditionally "for men" that are made identically for men and women?

Explain why a woman shouldn't wear jeans, shirts, etc they buy in the men's section. If you'd say it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing to you, that's fine, but taste really shouldn't be brought into deciding right and wrong... Is it really cross-dressing if a woman wears a mens t-shirt and jeans?

I guess I just can't understand the notion that kilts 'belong to men' and 'are not for women', especially when the reasons for that can't be explained better than 'just because'.

Craig

[Kiltman]

Perhaps, we should all wear nothing. Then, no one would be concerned about which garment belongs to a woman or a man.

[kiltimabar]

I had to look up "Merkin" on line. Never heard of it before. Wish i hadn't
Cant stop laughing........R
Here it is...
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_232.html

And until I looked this up I thought "merkin" was Canadian slang for their southern neighbors, dating from the Lyndon Johnson days ("Ma fellow 'Merkins...").

My apologies for my ignorance--my history education certainly has vast gaps.

[bubba]

I really don't much care if a woman wears a kilt, and as for merkins, the less said the better.

[Rigged]

I guess I just can't understand the notion that kilts 'belong to men' and 'are not for women', especially when the reasons for that can't be explained better than 'just because'.

Because the notion doesn't work in reverse. Dresses and skirts designed for women aren't recognized by society as men's clothing because a man wears them. It sure would be nice if we had ONE article of clothing that was definitively male.

Since kilts are still mostly worn by men, maybe that's a good place to make a stand.

Some women who wear men's clothing ARE cross-dressing. I know some of them. Also, some women who wear men's clothing (including kilts) are doing it for the purpose of making sure us guys have nothing we can call our own. I know a couple of them too.

[Oldpagan]

Ok, opinions are like a$$holes and I am going to air mine. First let me say that this is not directed at anyone or number of folks on this forum, just the idea or concept that is being discussed.

The idea that a Kilt becomes a skirt when a woman puts it on is not only sexist bunk, but also just plain ignorant. A Kilt is a Kilt regardless as to who is wearing it. I really like this forum, and have learned a lot from it. I enjoy the fact that folks from all over the globe post and share ideas and information here. Yet when I read this kind of crap it sickens me to no end. If you’re a man, and man enough to stand the trials and tribulations of wearing a kilt in our homophobic society, why is your masculinity so fragile that a woman in a Kilt threatens it?

I own a number of kilts, from trads to neo’s; my wife also owns a number of neo’s and looks damn good in them. She in no way looks “mannish” in them and would kick your *** if you were stupid enough to make such a sexist remark to her. Yeah I am a little hot under the collar concerning this issue. I have spent a couple of decades fighting the patriarchal mindset that woman are lesser beings and should know their place.

This is not the first time this subject has come up, and I am sure it’ll come up again. If I am still here on this forum I’ll freak out about it again as well. If the owner / moderators wish me to leave then I’ll go. I’ll just not stand by and condone such by default by remaining quiet about it.

I am going to go and buy another a kilt, and another one for my wife as well!

Oldpagan

[James]

I'd been going to add my bit, but Old Pagan got in first.

It is the wearer not the garment that defines masculinity and or femininity.

Too and this must appear harsh, as someone brought up to wear the kilt, and having worn it for more years than most: all too often the garments that are described/pictured on this forum do not conform to what many would see as a kilt.

Therefore honesty suggests that the kilt word is all too often a shield that defends a way of dressing, and the wearers masculinity. That leads to the idea that a woman wearing a kilt, breaches that shield; and so is a threat to a chaps masculinity-for he can no longer claim to be wearing an entirely male garment.

Well that is the reality-for what is male and what is female-think here of women in trousers-they are not seen as anything but female. The same should be seen of men who wear kilts or whatever-it is the man-not the garment that defines masculinity.

Now to turn the argument on its head-does a woman wearing trousers feel threatened by a man in trousers-I think not.

Turn it back again, and I'd suggest that any real man wearing a kilt-or dare I say it skirt: should not feel threatened by a woman dressed in a similar garment.

So forget what women are wearing and be proud and masculine enough to dress as you please and earn the respect that your masculinity and appearance deserve.

A last word being to both men and women-get a mirror.

James