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18th November 09, 12:52 PM
#41
 Originally Posted by longhuntr74
Great history lesson Christian...this regulation is very interesting...wonder if I can jump ship from the US Army to go be a Royal Scot? LOL...kidding...but it would be a cool exchange program!!!!
If you are an officer in the USA there would proly be a chance for an exchange, but if enlisted.. well you know the drill, eh ;)
And good luck w/ the brogues.. ebay is perhaps your best bet and proly cheaper even at the end of the day. If you have a question re sizing please feel free to PM me for further info.
Cheers
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19th November 09, 02:09 AM
#42
WPG used to sell regimental Brogues. I don't know if he has any left.
By Choice, not by Birth
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22nd November 09, 09:17 AM
#43
I had seen them before but I guess I never looked that closely...the "Standard Brogue Shoes" on Scotsweb are basically exactly what I was looking for. The soles on them probably are not as thick as the regimental soles, but the broguing pattern is exactly as I wanted but couldn't find...just pulled the trigger.
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
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18th January 10, 08:14 AM
#44
Wow...holy cow!!
 Originally Posted by Nervous Jock
some uniform prices
http://www.gbeverleytailors.co.uk/officers.asp
http://www.goldings.co.uk/military_a...e=male_officer
Remember, mess kit, no shoulder boards, rank slides, sporran, tassels, brogues, hose, flashes, bunnet, shirt, tie, dhu, cane
I just went to these links and looked at their prices....I have to say I'm in sticker shock. 795 pounds sterling for a standard uniform jacket???? That's got to be about $1000USD, right? I realize we're talking about bespoke tailoring here, but I am in the US Army and have uniforms that are professional quality and then altered/tailored to my body...the whole uniform with insignia, sewing, etc costs $500 or less. On these sites, just the jacket is double that. I'm literally in awe!
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
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19th January 10, 05:14 AM
#45
About the bewildering variety of dress in Highland regiments, I have in front of me a photo of seven members of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, posed together in 1999, and no two are dressed alike. The caption says "On the ramparts of Stirling Castle, Argylls display the variety of barrack and works dress to be seen around the RHQ on any day."
Here's how they're dressed
1) Glen, sky blue shirt, black belt with Argyll dress buckle, kilt, plain day sporran on metal chain, lovat hose.
2) Glen, camouflage shirt and pants
3) Glen, light olive shirt, camouflage pants
4) Glen, light khaki shirt, white belt with Argyll dress buckle, kilt, plain day sporran on dark leather belt, lovat hose.
5) TOS, light olive shirt, dark olive pants
6) as for man # 2 but has the collar of his light olive shirt sticking out over the collar of his camouflage shirt
7) Glen, light khaki shirt, white belt with Argyll dress buckle, tartan trousers (trews)
Another photo shows
8) Glen, light khaki shirt, white belt with Argyll dress buckle, kilt, Full Dress sporran, red & white hose, spats.
That doesn't even count the forms of No2 Dress with jacket (kilt form having plain sporran and lovat hose or full dress sporran and diced hose and spats) and No1 Dress, Mess Dress, jumpers/sweaters, etc.
By the way all the shirts in these photos have long sleeves and have been rolled up.
And, odd to American military, all of the shirts (sky blue, light khaki, light olive) are absolutely plain, having no badges or patches or pins of any sort on them. Sergeant rank stripes are worn on an armband (the British love these, cf the Captain's armband worn in football/soccer). Warrant Officers rank badges are worn on a leather wristband. (I can't tell if the camouflage shirts have patches on them.)
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19th January 10, 05:25 AM
#46
 Originally Posted by mbhandy
Did you notice the length of the jacket sleeves on the dress uniforms and the placement of the Flashes?
About jacket sleeve length, it's quite common for the Scottish military jackets to have the sleeves somewhat longer than US civilian suit sleeves, often around halfway between the wrist and knuckles, or even at the knuckles.
About the flashes, different regiments wore them in different places.
The Black Watch and the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders wore theirs far forward, with the leading edge of the front flash at the front centre line of the dicing on the hose. The new RRS seems to have followed that look.
The Highlanders wore theirs further to the side in approximately the 10 o'clock/ 2 o'clock position, as do the pipers of the Scots Guards and the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards.
I don't think any Scottish regiment wore them at the sides, at the 9 o'clock/ 3 o'clock position, which I suppose is why that looks "wrong" to my eye.
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20th January 10, 10:53 PM
#47
As soon as those MOD over-stock Cameron of Erracht regimental kilts come on the market, will someone P L E A S E email me so that I don't get snookered out of getting one in my size, like I did at WPG.
Thanks!
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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