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18th November 09, 10:42 AM
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Longhuntr74 & hospitaller,
If you are looking for regimental/MoD issue brogues perhaps the best place is ebay. Used pair, either with or without hobnails & heel/toe irons, can be found for approx 10-20GBP ($17-$35), but posting form the UK to US will run you approx 20-30GBP due to weight.
Another alternative is to pick up a new pair from one of the regimental or ACF kit shops, but that will cost around 80-110GBP ($140-$170) for the brogues alone. I've come across the odd kilt shop that stocks these here in the US, but be prepared to pay nearly $200 for a new pair!
The soles are all leather and substantial, and if bought used are often double or even triple soled depending upon hobnails or not. Toe and heel irons are standard I believe, and would come included w/ a new pair.
I have 3 pair. They are definately well made to endure the rigours of parade etc and will last a very long time.
Word to the wise though, skip the ones w/ hobnails if you can unless you plan to parade in them often.. they sound great and all, and people will actually turn to look and move out of your way when coming up from behind. But they can be hazardous on concrete/paved inclines, metal coverings/manholes and such, and potentially cause embarassement (or awe) if worn into places w/ smooth/waxed floors such as grocery stores, ie flat on one's back w/ apron & sporran resting on one's chest in front of checkout lanes...
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Christian
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18th November 09, 11:08 AM
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 Originally Posted by d_lairson
Anyone know the history of the green ribbons on the kilts? Also what's the deal with the blue shirts? I can understand the khaki ones, but the blue seems a little odd.
From what I have gleaned from historical info, and told previously by serving BW officers/squaddies, is that the green ribbons (Gaelic knots/bows) were originally used by officers to secure the front apron and their modesty, and later (1850's ??) became a symbol of rank worn by officers and SNCO's only.
The A&SH wore something similar.. an ornately embroidered panel along the apron edge w/ two rosettes on the panel and two smaller ones on a rear pleat, about the 4th or 6th pleat back on the right.
The blue shirts are from a regimental distinction as previously worn by officers/SNCOs of the Royal Highland Fusilisers, if I remember correctly... most other regiment senior ranks wore the usual "fawn" shirt for barracks dress, except for the A&SH, which wore a med grey shirt.
When the regiments amalgamated in 2006 the new uniform was based upon various bit & pieces of the remaining 7 Scottish regiments, hence the RHF blue shirts, regimental jumpers, and patrol jackets w/ spine pad, the Gordon black-buttoned spats, A&SH tartan kilts w/ BW knots, etc...
Hope that helps..
Cheers,
Christian
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18th November 09, 11:55 AM
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Great history lesson Christian...this regulation is very interesting...wonder if I can jump ship from the US Army to go be a Royal Scot? LOL...kidding...but it would be a cool exchange program!!!!
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
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18th November 09, 12:52 PM
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 Originally Posted by longhuntr74
Great history lesson Christian...this regulation is very interesting...wonder if I can jump ship from the US Army to go be a Royal Scot? LOL...kidding...but it would be a cool exchange program!!!!
If you are an officer in the USA there would proly be a chance for an exchange, but if enlisted.. well you know the drill, eh ;)
And good luck w/ the brogues.. ebay is perhaps your best bet and proly cheaper even at the end of the day. If you have a question re sizing please feel free to PM me for further info.
Cheers
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19th November 09, 02:09 AM
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WPG used to sell regimental Brogues. I don't know if he has any left.
By Choice, not by Birth
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22nd November 09, 09:17 AM
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I had seen them before but I guess I never looked that closely...the "Standard Brogue Shoes" on Scotsweb are basically exactly what I was looking for. The soles on them probably are not as thick as the regimental soles, but the broguing pattern is exactly as I wanted but couldn't find...just pulled the trigger.
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
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20th January 10, 10:53 PM
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As soon as those MOD over-stock Cameron of Erracht regimental kilts come on the market, will someone P L E A S E email me so that I don't get snookered out of getting one in my size, like I did at WPG.
Thanks!
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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