Celtic History??

[Burly Brute]

I disagree. I do not think history can be accurate without some foundation of mathematics, science, and some basic understanding of psychology. History does, after all, usually involve human behavior... To me, it is all interrelated, and the history of a subject is very important, as well, if for no other reason than it relates back the struggle to achieve the knowledge of that subject; it relates human meaning to the information. Most subjects or fields have a interrelated importance.

My opinion is that being creative and innovative along with self reflection is what drives or creates a person's spirit, but I probably define spirit differently than most.

It's a "full orb manhood" thing.

Just thought I would, against my better judgement, express what came to mind one more time.

Great point, one question: What is a "full orb manhood" ??? haha

[Tobus]

Very valid points, however, let me try to assert a few pointless bits of dribble to further confuse everyone else! Haha1 I totally agree, if I were of specific Babylonian decent, writing on xmarksthebab.com, I would probably be raising the same issue—if it were an issue. So I don’t know if that is the best argument. And who decides what we are taught? Whether it is best? I think that was my main point in asking why those who designate what we learn skip over such a deep part of human history. And to be honest, mathematics, physics, all that combined is useless without a good foundation of history because history, in part, is what drives a man’s spirit to be creative and inventive.

Politicians. They decide what is taught in public schools, and they decide what constitutes the minimum level of study in any specific area that is required to meet state-mandated education requirements.

Take this story for example. It's just a glimpse of how political partisanship is at the core of what we teach our children.

It's pretty sickening, actually. I can think of no better descriptor than "political brainwashing" to describe the way politics is mixed in with education. But I suppose that's inevitable in a system where government takes control of such things.

The underlying point here is that your education was determined by what politicians wanted you to know. So don't be surprised that a lot was left out (or completely skewed). I'm firmly of the opinion that education is something that should be ongoing, never stopping or slowing down until the day we draw our last breath. Read every book you can get your hands on, then read the sources they cite.

[macwilkin]

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[Bugbear]

Great point, one question: What is a "full orb manhood" ??? haha

I'm sorry, that was referring to the subject of a thread from a while back.

Here you go:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...manhood-62022/

As to my other post about credible sources, I don't have a problem with learning from books and information after one is out of school. I have a problem with the attitude that "I learned it all on my own," or "I taught myself."

[denmcdough]

Yes, I, too, agree that I was cheated on Celtic history in school. I've learned more in the last several years than all of my public and private schooling put together. Not only is Celtic history given a light dusting over, but most of all history is that way. Obviously, there is just so much to cover and never enough time.

It's a shame, but social studies does not get the emphasis as does math and science. American youth, for the most part, are oblivious to world history and geography. I know, I'm a teacher! Years ago, I taught SS and it's amazing what basic information students do not know. In reality, they could care less.

As for the politicians making the curriculum in schools, it has boiled down to that, unfortunately. But it never use to be that way. In the old days, it was the function of individual school boards to decide what is being taught in their school district. But, since so many schools run to the state capitals with their hands out, then once you take that money you become a slave to the government, and that's how they have gotten their hands soiled into individual school districts' issues. It's all about "show me the money!"

Oh, and don't even get me started on 'No Child Left Behind!' It's not doing what it was intended to do. It's dumbing down the educational system. Nuff said on that issue, as it's a hot topic for me. I'll close on that note!!!

[Burly Brute]

I'm sorry, that was referring to the subject of a thread from a while back.

Here you go:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...manhood-62022/

As to my other post about credible sources, I don't have a problem with learning from books and information after one is out of school. I have a problem with the attitude that "I learned it all on my own," or "I taught myself."

Haha wow, best reference ever!

[Bugbear]

Ok, an accessible copy of Webb's book popped up at the library I use. Have not found Leyburn's. yet.

I'll put it on my list.

There's a Scottish folklore book that popped up too.
The Silver Bough: Scottish Folk-Lore and Folk-Belief, by F. Marian Mcneill (Canongate Books, 1989).
Anybody know anything about it?

[Tobus]

Ok, an accessible copy of Webb's book popped up at the library I use. Have not found Leyburn's. yet.

If you'd like, I'll gift you my copy of Leyburn's work. I bought it new in paperback format earlier this year, read it, and I don't foresee reading it again. And since my wife is on my case about clearing out the clutter, I was just going to take it to the Half-Price Bookstore anyway.

PM me if you're interested.

[Burly Brute]

I decided to post this here because the original topic applies, and this way it will pop up for all thsoe who are subscribed.


I have decided that once I am done with my under graduate degree, I would like to pitch to my current college an idea for a "Celtic" history course that could either be a 1 semester, or preferably, split into two semesters. Here is my issue, I would definitely pursue a graduate degree in the field, but for developing the curriculum I wondered what you all think I should include: dates, events, people, etc. I am interested to hear what you all think! Considering it is 2:30am as I write this, if I wasn’t very clear on an aspect please feel free to ask for more info…

Slainte,

Zach

[robbiethepiper]

Scots, Irish and Welsh history is almost ignored in english schools. Suspect this is because those who win overall military victory get to write the history books and the english treatment of celtic peoples is not an honourable story.