Kilts in new Sherlock Holmes

**BoldHighlander** · 20th December 11, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sheep In Wolf's Clothing

According to Martin Fido's "World of Sherlock Homes", Doyle really didn't care for Paget's illustrations. But both Paget's Holmes drawings, and William Gillette early stage productions, had a huge influence on how the great detective looks and is recognised today.

Quite right Sara (in all you wrote), and you can also Frederic Dorr Steele (Collier's magazine) who's been cited along with Paget & Gillette as a major influence on how we perceive the "classic" Holmes look.

Originally Posted by OC Richard

And by the way Holmes' pipe is straight and long, not curved (it is mentioned and illustrated in The Copper Beeches).

I always like the long stem briar that Jeremy Brett smoked in some episodes of Holmes. In fact back in 1991 or 92 (when I still smoked) I ran across one just like it in a smoke shop & almost bought it. Though I no longer smoke I wish I had!

p.s. ~ the social-group ABERDEEN SHIPPING CO. is up and running (since Sunday). These discussions would be a great addition (hint!hint!)

**OC Richard** · 21st December 11, 06:24 AM

I love that photo of Jeremy Brett! That's more like the Holmes I think of.

Sadly, I've not seen his movies, or any Holmes movies. I dimly remember seeing Hounds as a child, and that's all.

So no one has a photo of the pipers they can post?

**Sheep In Wolf's Clothing** · 22nd December 11, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

[FONT="Georgia"]Quite right Sara (in all you wrote), and you can also Frederic Dorr Steele (Collier's magazine) who's been cited along with Paget & Gillette as a major influence on how we perceive the "classic" Holmes look.

Very true!
Sara

**Father Bill** · 16th December 11, 09:04 AM

Yup. I like 'em all! That says Sherlock Holmes to most people.

**sydnie7** · 16th December 11, 02:12 PM

Wandering back to discussion of post-Doyle interpretations of Holmes, there's a series by Laurie King about "Mary Russell," a young woman who meets Holmes after his retirement to beekeeping in Sussex -- we've quite enjoyed it! I think the first is "The Bee-Keeper's Apprentice" and they're all available at Amazon and elsewhere.

**Sheep In Wolf's Clothing** · 17th December 11, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by sydnie7

Wandering back to discussion of post-Doyle interpretations of Holmes, there's a series by Laurie King about "Mary Russell," a young woman who meets Holmes after his retirement to beekeeping in Sussex -- we've quite enjoyed it! I think the first is "The Bee-Keeper's Apprentice" and they're all available at Amazon and elsewhere.

Ms.King is a member of the BSI (her investiture being "The Red Circle"). Her books are not bad..but I just can't believe the relationship between Mary and Holmes. But I'm very happy you like them.You might enjoy her site and blog too. http://www.laurierking.com/
She is a very busy woman!
Happy reading,
Sara

**kilted hillbilly** · 17th December 11, 07:47 AM

The wife and I went to see the movie last nite and we enjoyed it very much. I have been a Sherlock Holmes fan since my boyhood, started when I saw "Hound of the Baskervilles" at an early age. I like Downey, he brings a different Holmes to the screen. Not better or worse, just different. I hope they make several more with him and Jude Law.

**McMurdo** · 18th December 11, 11:00 PM

I just joined, thanks for starting the group.

**WillieMacG** · 21st December 11, 04:34 PM

Saw the movie last night. Downey not a good Holmes. I wish they had focused a bit more on the "deduction skills" of Holmes to solve the plot. They seemed to have saved all that for a scene near the end of the movie. I also wish they had limited the slow motion shots which became tedious to say the least. Law was a good Watson.

**creagdhubh** · 22nd December 11, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by WillieMacG

Saw the movie last night. Downey not a good Holmes. I wish they had focused a bit more on the "deduction skills" of Holmes to solve the plot. They seemed to have saved all that for a scene near the end of the movie. I also wish they had limited the slow motion shots which became tedious to say the least. Law was a good Watson.

Jude Law is a pretty good Dr. Watson isn't he? A superb younger version indeed.