Another protectionist kilt article from "The Scotsman"

[JerseyLawyer]

I've been mulling this over in the last few days. Take blue jeans: especially when considered to be in style, they're made all over the world but everyone knows- because they can see- that the only good ones are the brand names made in the USA. If Scottish kilts maintain the same sort of quality lead, they will be known that way. The only question would be, can Scottish makers stay sufficently out in front? US jean makers have an equal social advantage but also have the added advantage of the availability of very cheap cotton.

You'd be surprised what makes "made in the USA" jeans actually "made the the USA." I believe, if the law hasn't changed, that the jeans are often largely made in Mexico or elsewhere, and the installation of the zipper (which is the step that makes them jeans) is done in the USA.

[Lallans]

You'd be surprised what makes "made in the USA" jeans actually "made the the USA." I believe, if the law hasn't changed, that the jeans are often largely made in Mexico or elsewhere, and the installation of the zipper (which is the step that makes them jeans) is done in the USA.

Perhaps my info is obsolete, but in my teens and 20s- and 30s too- it was USA all the way. What in fact killed the blue jean as a fashion staple was probably when designer brands came on the market. They were horrible but people felt they had to have them anyway- and then moved on. But this should never happen with kilts because the market is too knowledgeable.

[Jock Scot]

Nighthawk.

OK I suppose if we were a couple of legal types we could be earning monstrous fees over this! We aren't. Neither can I speak for any kilt maker, but as I see it.

Kilt makers such as Matt or Barb. Tewkesbury do make genuine kilts they just do not make genuine Scottish kilts and as far as I am aware, they have never claimed to have done so and without, I hope, being presumptuous or impertinent they appear to have no trouble finding customers who can see quality when it is in front of them and are not the least bit worried that the kilt is made in the USA,France, England or anywhere else in this world outwith Scotland. In fact the customers are so happy with the product that they put in repeat orders and why not?

Others from outwith Scotland and maybe within Scotland too, make/sell or both, some skirt type thing, of dubious provenance, that unfortunately claim to be kilts, simply because there is a lack of the correct definition and description for them. However, skilled traditional kilt makers from around the world have nothing to fear with their genuine kilts. Just like whisky producers outwith Scotland have nothing to fear with their products as long as the labeling is correct.

[Nighthawk]

Nighthawk.

OK I suppose if we were a couple of legal types we could be earning monstrous fees over this! We aren't. Neither can I speak for any kilt maker, but as I see it.

Kilt makers such as Matt or Barb. Tewkesbury do make genuine kilts they just do not make genuine Scottish kilts and as far as I am aware, they have never claimed to have done so and without, I hope, being presumptuous or impertinent they appear to have no trouble finding customers who can see quality when it is in front of them and are not the least bit worried that the kilt is made in the USA,France, England or anywhere else in this world outwith Scotland. In fact the customers are so happy with the product that they put in repeat orders and why not?

Others from outwith Scotland and maybe within Scotland too, make/sell or both, some skirt type thing, of dubious provenance, that unfortunately claim to be kilts, simply because there is a lack of the correct definition and description for them. However, skilled traditional kilt makers from around the world have nothing to fear with their genuine kilts. Just like whisky producers outwith Scotland have nothing to fear with their products as long as the labeling is correct.

I agree with you, Jock. My problem is that, as I stated, I see us all as a global community- cousins. Creating this distinction or that will only create rifts and cause problems, and that at this point is what concerns me. Why polarize us?

With the greatest of respect I think that we on this website have a pretty good idea what makes a kilt particularly after a month or two. Sadly, there are far more potential kilt buyers out there who have no idea what they are buying and unfortunately they are the ones who get caught. How many times do we get new members saying that they wished that they had known about this website before parting with a wad of Dollars in Princess Street on some substandard piece of junk. Their disappointment is more than obvious.

I quite accept that a cheap and cheerful kilt does have its uses for some sort of rough and tumble occasion and yes, they are a start for some too. For those that have bought the same garment thinking they had the real thing that will see them through formal events in style for a life time, have been done-----------well---------an injustice.

Once again, you and I see eye to eye!!

[McClef]

How many times do we get new members saying that they wished that they had known about this website before parting with a wad of Dollars in Princess Street on some substandard piece of junk.

Never heard of Princess St!

Emasculated by the new tramway?

[starbkjrus]

Never heard of Princess St!

Emasculated by the new tramway?

Gufffaaawwwwwww!

[Calico]

I needed quite a while to consider this carefully.

I, too, think that a "Made in Scotland" label or "Scottish Kilt" category would be marvelous*. But, in reality, as posted above, the people selling inferior product will continue to do so. They will either blatantly lie and include the label, or they will find a legal end-run around the intent of the label.

Either way, I think the end result would be to lower the confidence of the buying public so they would no longer perceive the label as "a good thing".

You are better off in Scotland having people know the "real" providers of kilts provide quality product, and the inferior providers don't. Labels will not change the situation, and can only hurt Scotland if both products end up with the same label.

* note: the word "marvelous" was chosen specifically. I would truly find it a marvel if an acceptable to Mr. Hawthorne definition of a Scots Kilt could be created.