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24th March 10, 03:13 PM
#71
Originally Posted by D.A. Guertin
I was kilt checked for the first time at age 12. I was kilt checked for the last time at age 12.
That is just plain wrong .
The one immediately prior to that resulted in a fellow being charged down over the course of 50 metres and bellowed at. I believe he came to a thorough understanding of the situation when the two kind gentlemen with badges and guns talked to him for a few minutes, and he apologised sincerely immediately thereafter...
If you were 12 at the time, the guy is lucky the cops got to him first . If my son were wearing a kilt (who knows, he might, once he sees me in mine), and anybody kilt checked him, they'd get their *** beat to a pulp. There is a difference between kilt checking me, and kilt checking a kid.
I choose to limit myself fairly strongly to shirt and tie, Crail or tweed Argyll, hose, flashes and sporran with sensible shoes. I promote what I, and a great many, consider to be a respectable, responsible and professional kilt outfit. Certainly my tastes are not for everyone, but when it comes to dealing with the uneducated masses, I think it best to set the bar high and make a good impression from the start.
You make a good point, that if you are dressed professionally, tastefully, etc., you're probably much less likely to have anyone lifting your kilt than if you're wearing an Iron Maiden t-shirt and 10" boots with your socks scrunched down.
-Sean
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24th March 10, 03:22 PM
#72
Originally Posted by Brian07663NJ
Now back to the topic being kilt check - my comment was meant to instill the sense that I don't find offense in it because it is a common enough question.
I never have a problem with The Question, although I find it interesting - endlessly fascinating, even - that people do ask. When I'm wearing trousers, no one asks if I'm wearing socks, much less whether I'm wearing underwear, and the people who ask The Question are not always those whom I might expect to be curious or bold enough to ask. The Question says more about the Questioner than any answer could say about the person being asked.
A kilt check is different. And while (as noted in another message) I have been kilt-checked, both by men and by women, and remain unbothered by it on a personal level, I do understand why others see it as an assault, an unwarranted invasion of privacy, and thus try to respond in a way that, without demonstrating any sense of personal affront, nonetheless discourages the activity. And it seems to work.
Garrett
"Then help me for to kilt my clais..." Schir David Lindsay, Ane Satyre of the Thrie Estaitis
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24th March 10, 03:25 PM
#73
I've only owned a kilt for about a week and a half, and have only worn it 3 times so far. I've yet to be physically kilt checked (other than by my wife).
On more than one occasion, I’ve over-heard intoxicated individuals behind me trying to convince their friends to attempt the lift-and-see maneuver, but none have been stupid enough to give it a go!
I have been verbally kilt checked much more than I expected! I guess this just comes with the whole experience of wearing the kilt!
"When I wear my Kilt, God looks down with pride and the Devil looks up with envy." --Unknown
Proud Chief of Clan Bacon. You know you want some!
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24th March 10, 03:33 PM
#74
Originally Posted by D.A. Guertin
I was kilt checked for the first time at age 12. I was kilt checked for the last time at age 12. I do not go for it what so ever. I do not take it as a joke, nor in good fun, nor do I allow anyone to continue believing, after first meeting, that it should be expected or acceptable on either side. I caren't a fig about 'the question,' which I dismiss off-hand by turning the question directly back on them. That is quite simple, and innocuous, merely demonstrating to me the ignorance and general low class of the asker.
The last attempted kilt check resulted in a loud 'OI!' and a firmly slapped hand. The one immediately prior to that resulted in a fellow being charged down over the course of 50 metres and bellowed at. I believe he came to a thorough understanding of the situation when the two kind gentlemen with badges and guns talked to him for a few minutes, and he apologised sincerely immediately thereafter...
I agree with QMcK, while we are so few, what goes for one goes for all as far as the plebeians are concerned. In choosing for myself, I choose for all of us. Many will disagree with me, but I choose to limit myself fairly strongly to shirt and tie, Crail or tweed Argyll, hose, flashes and sporran with sensible shoes. I promote what I, and a great many, consider to be a respectable, responsible and professional kilt outfit. Certainly my tastes are not for everyone, but when it comes to dealing with the uneducated masses, I think it best to set the bar high and make a good impression from the start.
My £2 on the matter anyway...
I totally agree D A - see post #3
For everybody else, do not confuse 'The Question' with a kilt check - they are not the same and warrant different responses.
Regards
Chas
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25th March 10, 12:31 PM
#75
Originally Posted by peacekeeper83
A dog investigating a new "odor" does not constitute a kilt check...reguardless how desperate the kilt wearer desires to be kilt checked...LOL
Sometimes we just want figure out the source of that musk or old mold aroma. Is it the wool kilt or the . . . ?
sniff?
sniff?
grrrrrrlwww
wagging tail now
smile shows big canine teeth!
Go, have fun, don't work at, make it fun! Kilt them, for they know not, what they wear. Where am I now?
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25th March 10, 12:39 PM
#76
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think the whole notion of the 'kilt check' (or worse investigations) has been ingrained in people from the start by popular/modern culture. I wonder how common this behavior was a few hundred years ago? Only through wearing the kilt respectfully and educating others on the fact that it's not merely a 'costume' intended for amusement will we be able to change this.
Originally Posted by D.A. Guertin
...while we are so few, what goes for one goes for all as far as the plebeians are concerned. In choosing for myself, I choose for all of us. Many will disagree with me, but I choose to limit myself fairly strongly to shirt and tie, Crail or tweed Argyll, hose, flashes and sporran with sensible shoes. I promote what I, and a great many, consider to be a respectable, responsible and professional kilt outfit. Certainly my tastes are not for everyone, but when it comes to dealing with the uneducated masses, I think it best to set the bar high and make a good impression from the start.
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26th March 10, 08:45 PM
#77
OK
While wearing my kilt home from Kathy Lare's (my kiltmaker), I was checked twice in 7 hours.
Once by my wife...
And once by a very distinguished lady who literally rubbed her hand all the way up the outside of my leg.
To say that I was shocked by the second one would be an understatement.
Another shock was that it took a mere seven hours for it to happen!
Si Deus, quis contra? Spence and Brown on my mother's side, Johnston from my father, proud member of Clan MacDuff!
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29th March 10, 09:33 AM
#78
I was out with co-workers in a social setting this weekend. One woman who knows what I wear underneath and some of her friends. Her friends wanted to know, and she told them that they might not want to know the answer. I offered the opportunity for one of them to check for themselves, but none took me up on it. I could tell if I had offered a 3rd time, one was wanting very badly to do so though! Only one turned away when I offered to show them my tattoo.
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