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14th August 05, 03:50 PM
#1
US Air Force Tartan
Hey Guys
My son is soon to enter the Air Force, and I notice that, as I search the net, I see 2 similar, but not identical, unofficial Air Force Tartans.
I'd like to ask any of you in the USAF, or who know better that I (which is all of you)...
what is the difference?
Which is used by whom?
Why the difference?
Recommendations?
All help gratefully appreciated.
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14th August 05, 07:48 PM
#2
Google was full of info...just put in US Air Force Tartan
This seems to explain some of the confusion
http://www.houseoftartan.co.uk/news/...2.htm#airforce
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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14th August 05, 08:02 PM
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USAF tartan...
Before the USAF Reserve Pipe Band adopted the "Lady Jane" tartan, they wore the Mitchell tartan in honour of General William "Billy" Mitchell, an American officer of Scottish heritage who adovcated the use of modern air power and was court-martialed for insubordination.
I have a book from the Company of Military Historians that has some info on the Air Force Pipe Band -- I'll see if I can't dig that up...
Cheers,
Todd
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15th August 05, 04:54 AM
#4
Once again, thanks guys. It's a great help!
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15th August 05, 08:02 AM
#5
Hi Prester John
Strathmore weaves the unofficial Air Force tartan (the "Lady Jane" referred to in an earlier post), and you can see it at http://www.tartanbystrathmore.co.uk/..._usforces.html. Part of the confusion arises because the US Air Force tartan and the US Forces tartan are quite similar. Identical undercheck but different overcheck. Easy to confuse.
Unfortunately, Strathmore only weaves the US Air Force tartan in 11 oz. weight. Knowing that it might be a bit light, I ordered some anyway to make a kilt for my daughter, who is a piper and in Air Force ROTC in college. I was disappointed in the weight of the fabric. The kilt is light and wrinkles easily (it's noticeably lighter than D.C. Dalglieh's 11-12 oz fabric that I've made many dancer's kilts from). The tartan would make a great shirt, but it's light for a kilt. So, I had a custom length woven at D.C. Dalgliesh in 16 oz, and it is really beautiful. Made a terrific kilt.
Barb
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15th August 05, 08:19 AM
#6
John,
This is the page from Alexis Malcolm with the military kilts, http://tinyurl.com/dgkt4
Jack
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15th August 05, 10:36 AM
#7
I have a USAF tartan kilt.
I got mine from http://www.scottishclansman.com/ when they were at a Celtic fest last year in my area.
I've yet to wear it with my mess dress uniform (not exactly IAW 36-2903, but who's watching? ;) )
I'd love to get a matching plaid to wear with a Prince Charlie. It's a very sharp looking tartan. :grin:
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15th August 05, 12:53 PM
#8
It is a beautiful tartan. I pleated my daughter's to the stripe, and it is particularly sharp-looking.
Barb
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15th August 05, 01:10 PM
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Star Wars Imperial Tee with AF Tartan!
Hay F16WarBird, I don't know which I am more jealous of, The kilt or the SW Imperial Tee Shirt!
Also, I'm Campbell on mothers side and like the avatar.
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15th August 05, 01:32 PM
#10
Ok, so I've gone to this location:
http://www.tartanbystrathmore.co.uk/..._usforces.html
and I see I think the air force, and the "thurso" for US Forces.
What is "thurso?" if anyone knows.
BTW, F16, I must confess that is a sharp looking tartan kilt. Much better than I thought it would look. A+.
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