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11th October 05, 11:25 AM
#1
A Day in the Life of a Kilt
A close friend and I wear our Sport kilts as discreet changing attire when we got off the water from a kayak adventure. We typically head to a local est. for a pint. "kilted of-course." We get the typical reaction from all who venture to inquire. "Thumbs up, from mature men. Laughs and Snickers from immature men, Pleasant inquiries from the lasses. Last week a young slightly intoxicated girl approached us and told us she was going to lift our kilts because she was bet 20$ for the act. we replied no...and moved her hands off our hem lines. To which she walked away only to return and lift my kilt when I was not paying Attention. (I was regimental for the first time, I am not comfortable that way, for this exact reason) I took it in stride but then thought about it. The same act prepetrated by a male to a skirted female would have brought big problems, fights, police, at the least being kicked out of the establishment, etc. I believe my reaction was proper "I ignored her"
But it weighed heavy on my mind as the night wore on. Any advice or similar stories? Thanks, Richland
“Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, taste the fruit, drink the drink, and resign yourself to the influences of each.” H.D. Thoreau
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11th October 05, 12:22 PM
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It is a difficult problem. If you don't do anything and you encourage the idea that guys wearing kilts don't mind or even appreciate it. If you say something and people think you don't have a sense of humour. If you talk to the police who knows what reaction you will get.
Its only happened to me once (ie. when it was unwelcome). I didn't do anything about it, as it was a friend and we were amongst other friends. I was bothered, tried not to let it bother me too much.
I think all you can do is commit to a course of conduct and don't second guess yourself. What ever you do, keep your cool. Because if you had of yelled at her and insulted her, I suspect the sympathy of those around you would have gone to her.
There is an unfair double standard out there. Not sure what can be done about it.
Last edited by jkdesq; 11th October 05 at 03:04 PM.
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11th October 05, 01:24 PM
#3
You turn around and say, "Your turn," and wait for her to lift up her skirt.
Or say, "Would you slap a man if he tried that to you?" When she says yes, say, "Okay, brace yourself...."
Andrew.
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11th October 05, 01:37 PM
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I like both of those, Andrew... especially the latter
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11th October 05, 02:53 PM
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I like Andrews replies also, but I may not want to lower myself to this lassies level, she was drunk but you were in possession of your mind.
We have discussed at length this double standard on the forum, there seems to be no real answer, if we wear a kilt then confronting the ignorance of the masses is part of the deal.
Still, we all agree that the freedom of kilt wearing is worth the effort and the grief.
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11th October 05, 05:28 PM
#6
"Show me your's first"
"You're under citizen's arrest for sexual assault."
"Okay honey, but someplace private. My place or yours?"
And anything off the long threads about kilt checks....
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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12th October 05, 08:31 AM
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This biz has come up in the forum often...and in a similar thread I commented that, as you observed, if the situation was reversed it would be "a sex crime" and you'd not only get arrested but you'd probably get the bejabbers kicked out of you by the offended party's significant other and end up having to register with the local constabulary as a "sex offender" every year or whenever you relocated.
So is there some problem here that by wearing a kilt it is assumed that you are inviting this kind of conduct? I mean, I generally tend to mind my own business...and this hasn't happened to me as yet and I hope that it doesn't...but how does some anebriated woman or group of women come to the conclusion that this is some kind of cutesy behavior? And I don't mean to infer that any of the forum participants wear the kilt because they want stuff like this to happen...I accept that it comes with the territory.
It's like the conversation that I had with my wife: I noted that if I were a twenty-something guy with nice abs and a full head of hair I would be a kilted studmuffin...but I'm a fifty-something guy with less hair than he started out with and there's abs in there somewhere if I could only find them...so I'm a "charming eccentric" instead. Oh well...perhaps that will help to spare me the indignity of even having to put up with such shenanigans.
best
auld argonian
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12th October 05, 09:41 AM
#8
A tatoo may do
A temporary tatoo on the kilted one's backside with some useful message may do.
"If you can read this you just broke the law"
"Your Under Arrest"
On the humeous side:
"This Space for rent"
Any more ideas?
“Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, taste the fruit, drink the drink, and resign yourself to the influences of each.” H.D. Thoreau
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12th October 05, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Breecher
You turn around and say, "Your turn," and wait for her to lift up her skirt.
That only works if she's wearing one.
However, some girls are so eager to know that they'll offer the trade. At the L.B. Blues Festival, I had a number of girls offer to show me theirs if I'd show them mine!
...and, no, I didn't take them up on the offer.
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12th October 05, 10:53 AM
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This happened to me when I was with my wife at a St. Paddy's party. A friend of ours, with no warning, grabbed the back of my kilt and lifted high enough for all to see. I turned quickly and when I saw who the lifter was I said quite calmly "Was it good for you?" and then offered her a smoke. She turned quite red and then tried to apologize. She finally blurted out that she would like to by me a drink and the incident passed with a Murphy's Irish Stout.
I'm not sure what I would have said if I didn't know her! I do like Andrew's comebacks.
Here's to lifting a pint and not a kilt!
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