Black Gospel Music originated in Scotland?

[Rigged]

Interesting premise.

http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/NCFR/roots.html

Oh, happy Black History Month!

[cavscout]

Very interesting read. You would think this would be much easier to prove or disprove.

[Graham]

I believe it.
Everything began in scotland

[Valencian Kilted]

I don't know for the orthodoxians, but in the roman catholic church on formal occasions we still sing "responsorial psalms", where the lector reads the psalm and a phrase of it is repeated by the assistants, based on the same schemes or musical styles that were stated on the middle age following the "Gregorian style". As the article says, this way of "singing" the Gospel was developed to make people participate and understand it, but it was made some centuries before 16th century!

Anyway, is good to know that, at least for the afroamericans, the option of being "afro-gaelics" is real!.

Let me remember to you as well a character on a book called "The Blues against the Greys" by the canadian author William Camus (1923-...). The character is a black boy called Joshua Ponce de León (and that's a spanish surname!), that gets listed on the Union Army on the Secession American War, and as he claims for his scottish origins, he becomes a kilted piper on a highland regiment. It's an interesting coincidence, don't u think?

¡Salud!

T O N O

[GMan]

It does show through with Afro-Celtic bands.

[sav]

I actually just returned from NYC, where I was attending the biennial ACDA (American Choral Directors Association) Convention. This Yale professor was present and I chatted with him about this topic. In short, he has some very interesting research on it, and it's certainly plausible...I think that several other ethnomusicologists are now looking into it.

[minimalistix]

I wouldn't be surprised by that.

Gospel, and country for that matter, were both heavily influenced by Scots, and obviously African slaves.

Let me remember to you as well a character on a book called "The Blues against the Greys" by the canadian author William Camus (1923-...). The character is a black boy called Joshua Ponce de León (and that's a spanish surname!), that gets listed on the Union Army on the Secession American War, and as he claims for his scottish origins, he becomes a kilted piper on a highland regiment. It's an interesting coincidence, don't u think?

Yeah, that's one thing I never thought about until I read some history on the civil war concerning the make up of the soldier regiments. It was interesting to see that Scots and Irish units fought on both sides.

[macwilkin]

I don't know for the orthodoxians, but in the roman catholic church on formal occasions we still sing "responsorial psalms", where the lector reads the psalm and a phrase of it is repeated by the assistants, based on the same schemes or musical styles that were stated on the middle age following the "Gregorian style". As the article says, this way of "singing" the Gospel was developed to make people participate and understand it, but it was made some centuries before 16th century!

Anyway, is good to know that, at least for the afroamericans, the option of being "afro-gaelics" is real!.

Let me remember to you as well a character on a book called "The Blues against the Greys" by the canadian author William Camus (1923-...). The character is a black boy called Joshua Ponce de León (and that's a spanish surname!), that gets listed on the Union Army on the Secession American War, and as he claims for his scottish origins, he becomes a kilted piper on a highland regiment. It's an interesting coincidence, don't u think?

¡Salud!

T O N O

Scottish Presbyterians, especially the Convenanter variety, were famous for their metrical psalms, Tono -- as I understand it, it is different that Gregorian Chant, and for good reason. The reformers wanted something simple to sing that kept most of the original text from the Bible. But enough religion...

Is the book you mention claiming that this youg man was a "kilted piper in a highland regiment" in the American Civil War? If so, then the book has some problems historically:

1. With a few exceptions, most northern regiments in the Civil War were not intergrated. If an African-American did serve, it was only because he could "pass" as white and was not discovered. For the most part, African-Americans served in segregated units (the most famous being the 54th Mass., which was featured in "Glory") with white officers.

2. Whilst there is much myth around about the 79th New York Highlanders wearing kilts into battle and their pipe band, there is very little evidence that they actually wore their kilts (which were actually part of their pre-war militia uniform) into combat. There does seem to be some documentation for trews in the Cameron of Erracht tartan. The Pipe Band is even more of a mystery, as some sources claim that it was kept in Washington in 1861 on the request of President Lincoln, whilst others say that it never left New York!

Sorry to be "picky", but I am a history instructor after all! :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

[MACKAY]

I believe it.
Everything began in scotland

Remember, the Scots invented the world!

[Graham]

Remember, the Scots invented the world!

Well the more I read about the Scots, the more impressed I am of their inventions, and discoveries.
They have been a nation blessed.