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12th November 07, 05:11 AM
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Names of places and highland attire
I've noticed many fellow kilties here have fun with the spellings of various parts of the highland attire we all like to wear so much.
I thought it might help to remember that they're mostly named for places in Scotland:
The name of the jacket with gauntlet cuffs is an Argyll, from the region of Argyll on the west coast.
A variant on this jacket (Prince Charlie cuffs) is the Braemar, from the town of Braemar, home of the famous Braemar Gathering.
The other variant (plain cuffs) is the Crail jacket, from Crail in Fife, east of St Andrews.
The kilt with the funny pleats is the Kingussie, from the c1820 kilt with this type of pleats in the Highland Folk Museum, Am Fasagh, Kingussie.
The bonnet is a Balmoral, as in Balmoral Castle, the Scottish home of the Queen.
The kilt belt is sometimes called a Montrose belt, from Montrose, on the east coast between Dundee and Aberdeen.
Hope this helps!
best regards
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12th November 07, 05:43 AM
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The links are great...thanks!
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12th November 07, 06:49 AM
#3
Originally Posted by sjrapid
I've noticed many fellow kilties here have fun with the spellings of various parts of the highland attire we all like to wear so much.
What a very nice and subtle way to tell someone that they are stupid and can't spell.
While in this general vane, what is the plural of sgian dubh?
Is it sgian dubhs or sgians dubh?
Pray tell me kind sir.
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12th November 07, 07:09 AM
#4
The plural of sgian dubh is sgians dubh.
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12th November 07, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by timber
The plural of sgian dubh is sgians dubh.
Neat, someone fell into the trap!
Please do research some more, and get back to me.
Hint - find out what the actual definition of each word is first.
Sgian means - - - ?
Dubh means - - - - ?
Then justify your reasoning.
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12th November 07, 07:37 AM
#6
I believe sgian dubh simply means "black knife" in Gallic.
sgian = knife
dubh = black
Cheers
Jamie
Originally Posted by James MacMillan
Neat, someone fell into the trap!
Please do research some more, and get back to me.
Hint - find out what the actual definition of each word is first.
Sgian means - - - ?
Dubh means - - - - ?
Then justify your reasoning.
Last edited by Panache; 12th November 07 at 07:38 AM.
Reason: broke down the translation
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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12th November 07, 08:05 AM
#7
Maybe as we are using a Gallic term we should use the Gallic plural form of sgian sgèanan dubh...
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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12th November 07, 08:28 AM
#8
Originally Posted by McClef
Maybe as we are using a Gallic term we should use the Gallic plural form of sgian sgèanan dubh...
Now we're getting somewhere!
Consider the following:
Brother - Brethren
Foot - feet
alumna - alumnae
index - indices
datum - data
cherub - cherubim
inuk - inuit
son-in-law - sons-in-law
In order to properly use a word that stems from another language, I suggest that we go back to that other language.
Now what?
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12th November 07, 09:15 AM
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I guess you'd want to either Gallic it up and say sgèanan dubh, or you'd want to English it up and say sgian dubhs. Somewhere in between is incorrect by both standards.
For example, you can say formulae and fora, but most English-speakers say formulas and forums. Both are "correct," whatever that means.
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12th November 07, 02:18 PM
#10
Originally Posted by James MacMillan
...
While in this general vane, what is the plural of sgian dubh?
...
Do you mean we are trapped inside a weather vane?
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