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19th August 08, 07:12 AM
#1
Behind the Walls Kilted...? Anyone??
So I'm wondering if any contract workers, volunteers, or teachers have ever been allowed behind the walls of a prison, or even jail, while kilted.
How about any kilted visitors to a prison or jail visitation area where contact is allowed?
I can say I've been to jail kilted in a visitor's area where there is no contact. Was a through the glass with a little voice opening like at a boxoffice type visitation booth.
Is there a frontier to be conquered still lurking out there?
We know there are correction and detention officers who are kilted on their own time away from work...but has anyone ever made it "inside" kilted?
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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19th August 08, 07:32 AM
#2
Yes and No. I've never visited a formal jail kilted but my work with the court service often took me into our small local prison in Hawick to deal with individual custody cases while wearing my black kilt. This prison is the only custody suite in the Scottish Borders and is classified as "legalised police cells" where prisoners can only be detained for a maximum of seven days and in practice the longest detentions are normally Friday till Monday. Any longer remands or sentences are transported to Edinburgh if male or Stirling if female.
Last edited by cessna152towser; 20th August 08 at 06:58 AM.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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19th August 08, 08:25 AM
#3
Don't want to see the inside of a prison, Kilted or NOT.
MrBill
Very Sir Lord MrBill the Essential of Happy Bottomshire
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19th August 08, 09:39 AM
#4
I haven't worn a kilt the few times I've visited, but I don't think I would, at least not to a regular prison as opposed to a local jail. It would just potentially open too many other problems to deal with for me to want to try it.
If you do go to a real maximum security faciilty kilted, let us know how it goes. Frankly, I have enough to worry about without that.
Good luck, my friend.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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19th August 08, 10:31 AM
#5
I personally don't want to think about it....
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19th August 08, 12:58 PM
#6
As a twenty + years Corrections professional, in my humble opinion, the less skin my staff exposes, the safer they are. I don't want to see staff exposed or being exposed to more things than you can think of while on the floor wrestling with inmates, be they kilted, females in skirts, or staff wearing shorts. Long pants are not the most comfortable, but barring a full body suit, they are the safest.
As for visitors and professonals (attorneys, clergy, etc) they can wear shorts, so I can only assume that kilts are allowed. So far, no one has tried it. My husband has come in a few times kilted to see me, and the inmates just stared. The staff thinks he is cool.
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19th August 08, 05:18 PM
#7
Good points, didn't mean that staff should be kilted...well, maybe on a minimum yard like a DUI yard or something...was thinking more in terms of sort of adjunct staff, contractors, volunteers..
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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19th August 08, 05:57 PM
#8
I looked up a couple of Alaska institutions dress codes for visitors. The specify that men must wear a shirt and trousers. This was common through the institutions I searched.
Some excerpts from ADC (Arizona Dept of Corrections)policy:
1.15.6 The dress code for male visitors (age eight and over) is:
1.15.6.1 Shorts shall be knee length, when standing. Jogging shorts, cut-offs, or hip huggers are prohibited.
1.15.6.2 Shirts shall be worn at all times. Muscle shirts; sleeveless shirts; tank-style shirts; mesh shirts; or shirts that display bare midriff are prohibited.
1.15.6.3 Undershorts shall be worn at all times.
1.15.6.4 Shoes shall be worn at all times.
http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/pol...licies/911.htm
You can peruse their site, but I suspect kilts are not addressed, and would need to be worked through appropriate channels.
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19th August 08, 06:21 PM
#9
Hmmm... What a curious topic/thread... There isn't something you're not telling us, is there Ron? You're not headed to the hoosegow yourself, I hope....??
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19th August 08, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mbhandy
Don't want to see the inside of a prison, Kilted or NOT.
MrBill
Second that
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