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13th July 09, 03:10 PM
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WWI Historical Kilt Question
From the web site at buzzkidder.com:
"Inspired by the khaki kilts issued to the Tenth Battalion Black Watch Regimen during WWI, Buzz Kidder's Celtic Shoppe created the Canvas Kilt, a popular
and practical alternative to a tartan kilt. The 10-oz. Army duck canvas kilt is sewn in the traditional style, with handmade pleats that are fully machine-stitched
for easy maintenance and durability."
First, I had to read that carefully; it does not say that the original khaki kilts were canvas or cotton.
I'm not finding much information about these khaki kilts, but they are mentioned on a few sites. I'm assuming that the Tenth Battalion Black Watch Regimen members were, in fact, issued these khaki kilts during WWI, as stated.
Were these kilts made of wool?
Were they made just as a traditional, eight yard, military kilt is constructed?
Or is the khaki kilt just a myth?
Thank you.
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13th July 09, 03:25 PM
#2
Not my area of expertise, but I believe some kilted forces in WWI used canvas aprons to protect the kilt, not a complete khaki or canvas kilt.
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13th July 09, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zardoz
Not my area of expertise, but I believe some kilted forces in WWI used canvas aprons to protect the kilt, not a complete khaki or canvas kilt.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
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13th July 09, 03:54 PM
#4
I'm almost certain that the Black Watch would have been wearing a kilt apron over their kilts.
Here area few links to look at
http://www.houseoflabhran.net/argyll...ww1photos.html
My own thread from the 48th Highlanders Museum
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/4...666/index.html
It shows an entire uniform from 1916 including the kilt apron,
Here is a link to the Black Watch page with a brief history of the regiment's actions in WWI including photos of pipers, while it is hard to see it looks like they are wearing the Government Sett and not a canvas kilt.
http://www.theblackwatch.co.uk/index/first-world-war
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13th July 09, 04:20 PM
#5
Here is a brief discussion of the khaki kilts, as well as, the kilt aprons on another site:
Khaki kilts - Great War Forum
I really have no idea.
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13th July 09, 04:38 PM
#6
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Not my area of expertise, but I believe some kilted forces in WWI used canvas aprons to protect the kilt, not a complete khaki or canvas kilt.
Exactly. There was a khaki tartan worn by a battalion of the Black Watch of Canada, but I don't have the details handy at the moment.
Todd
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13th July 09, 04:51 PM
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Ya, Todd, at this link I posted that is also discussed, and that the Scottish troups were given the priority to recieve tartan kilts and a lot more details.
Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
I'm trying to sort out this information.
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13th July 09, 04:53 PM
#8
Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
From the web site at buzzkidder.com:
"Inspired by the khaki kilts issued to the Tenth Battalion Black Watch Regimen during WWI, Buzz Kidder's Celtic Shoppe created the Canvas Kilt, a popular
and practical alternative to a tartan kilt. The 10-oz. Army duck canvas kilt is sewn in the traditional style, with handmade pleats that are fully machine-stitched
for easy maintenance and durability."snip
I have to wonder how machine stitched pleats can be handmade?
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13th July 09, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
Ya, Todd, at this link I posted that is also discussed, and that the Scottish troups were given the tartan kilts and a lot more details.
I'm trying to sort out this information.
Ted,
I have a book at home in my library -- The Canadian Army at War -- which discusses the khaki tartan of the Black Watch of Canada.
T.
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13th July 09, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Smayniac
I have to wonder how machine stitched pleats can be handmade?
By taking your hands, folding the pleat along the mark, then guiding it through the sewing machine I guess...
Any way, that was just where the mention of the khaki kilt and Black Watch got me looking for the answers to my questions.
I just wanted to know about these khaki kilts in WWI.
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