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31st July 09, 05:30 PM
#1
Pics of kilted clergy please
Last edited by Cavebear58; 13th December 09 at 05:44 PM.
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31st July 09, 08:01 PM
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Strictly speaking, I'm not a 'man of the cloth' but...
Originally Posted by Cavebear58
Hello chaps. I'm reviewing my options for a kilted wedding in a few weeks and wondered if there was any chance of those of you with similar clerical roles could possibly post a picture or two of you kilted and in clerical attire, whatever you use? I'd be particularly interested in any military chaplains in kilts.
Many thanks, Graham.
AFAIK, the Clark tartan has a clerical tradition to it... Clarks being Kirk-minders (that is "priests"). I also have Clark in my family tree, and it's a nice looking sett IMHO... I've heard that Clergy (regardless of familial extraction) have, legendarily, worn the Clark/Clergy tartan for their own protection during times of inter-clan feuds and such (so as not to be targeted).
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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31st July 09, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fit2BKilted
... I've heard that Clergy (regardless of familial extraction) have, legendarily, worn the Clark/Clergy tartan for their own protection during times of inter-clan feuds and such (so as not to be targeted).
Where did you hear that?
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31st July 09, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gilmore
Where did you hear that?
To be honest, I can't quite put my finger on it at the moment---my memory is not what it once was---but if I recall, I'll be sure to post the source (even if it was just my great-uncle rambling).
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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31st July 09, 08:43 PM
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This is NOT the source of my statement; but, is of a similar angle: http://www.vowsfromtheheartofscotlan...lerytartan.htm There's also this picture of a kilted minister there:
There's also a similar reference here, low down on the page... This (profusion of variations on the interpretation of the origin of the sett) seems to indicate to me that these are different ways of looking at the convention of giving the Clergy a tartan of their own: so that they might be readily identified as such and given due courtesy.
Last edited by Fit2BKilted; 31st July 09 at 08:55 PM.
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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31st July 09, 08:47 PM
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Here are some pictures. As an Anglican priest, my kilt would not be visible under my vestments. When I'm officiating at a wedding, the kilt would not be seen. When I'm seen in the kilt, it's after the services are over. Around church functions I would also typically wear a clerical collar. If I am kilted for a wedding, I would not wear a PC, but choose an Argyll instead.
The blue tartan is the Clark Tartan. As pointed out above, many clergy tartans are variations of the Clark tartan, and sometimes the Clark tartan is used as a clergy tartan. As a Clark, it works for me both ways. The other kilt is a variation of the Episcopal Clergy Tartan, the sett of which is based on the sett of the Clark tartan. There's also nothing wrong with wearing your family tartan.
Last edited by Spartan; 2nd August 09 at 07:54 AM.
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1st August 09, 04:18 AM
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Here is an article I wrote in Sept. 2005 on the Clergy tartan:
http://albanach.org/clergy_tartan.htm
I've made several Clergy tartan kilts in the past. Here's one I made being worn by a Benedictine priest, taken while on vacation to visit his family's homeland (Nova Scotia).
Here is a close-up of another Clergy tartan kilt I made, this one for a Presbyterian minister.
In both cases the tartan is in the modern colors, Lochcarron heavy weight. Often the Clergy tartan is seen in the ancient colors, and there is also a green version. I've done kilts in all three. I'd have to say that the modern colors are my favorite, but the ancient seems most popular today.
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1st August 09, 09:53 AM
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So, it would be acceptable in your opinion, Matthew, for a Zen monk or Hindu priest to wear the Clergy tartan (if they weren't partial to the saffron)?
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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1st August 09, 12:22 PM
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clergy photo
This is what I wear when going on a visit to parishoners from Scotland or have a Scottish connection.
It is summer here and the heat is extreme so I go without the jacket for now.
For a wedding in the church I wear my alb and stole/ chasuble...you cannot see the kilt then.
For a wedding outside the church I would wear what you see in my photo with a tartan stole if requested by the couple.
I do not wear the Clark tartan but the clergy tartan (ancient). It was weaved in Scotland by Lochcarron and is a different tartan but does look like the Clark a wee bit.
If you look at Spartan's photos, I think he does it best as you can see that he does not stand out with a flashy furry sporran or white hose but has a more "muted" look as clergy are supposed to look. At least the clergy I know. Although I am sure you will see many variations here and to each his/her own really.
Robert "V"
Last edited by The Vicar; 1st August 09 at 12:29 PM.
Reason: spelling
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1st August 09, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fit2BKilted
So, it would be acceptable in your opinion, Matthew, for a Zen monk or Hindu priest to wear the Clergy tartan (if they weren't partial to the saffron)?
You mean something like a Tibetan monk wearing a clergy kilt?
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