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30th November 09, 06:03 PM
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Duty Tax
Hello All,
Been away for a while but I am back and in need of info:
1) I am in the process of ordering a 16 oz MacLean of Duart Hunting Modern from Strathmore Mills and I got a price quote of $550.00 delivered to my door but they could not tell me what the duty might be on a kilt.
Anyone give me an idea of what I am facing for a duty tax for a kilt coming into the US?
Thanks all,
Eric Schutte
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30th November 09, 06:16 PM
#2
I've never had to pay any duty, but be sure to specify that they DO NOT send it either DHL or FedEx. Or, be sure to specify that they will be responsible for any duty at their expense.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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30th November 09, 06:44 PM
#3
No Duty?
Hi Jim,
They said they were going to send it DHL, is that a bad thing? I don't know anything about DHL.....please tell me more.....thanks,
Eric
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1st December 09, 05:34 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by thescot
I've never had to pay any duty, but be sure to specify that they DO NOT send it either DHL or FedEx. Or, be sure to specify that they will be responsible for any duty at their expense.
I think it's a little unreasonable to expect the company you are buying from to be responsible for paying any duties or customs fees for your importing their product into your country. You are the one purchasing the item, and it is your country of residence that has any applicable duties that may be charged. There is a reason why the shipper bills the recipient of the package, not the sender.
You are the one buying the item, so you should expect to have to pay any applicable costs in getting that item to you.
As you can imagine I import things all the time from the UK to the US, largely for the Scottish Tartans Museum, but for myself personally, as well. Never have I expected the company or person I have been buying from to cover my own customs fees. That's the cost I take on when I choose to buy from another country.
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1st December 09, 06:42 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
I think it's a little unreasonable to expect the company you are buying from to be responsible for paying any duties or customs fees for your importing their product into your country. You are the one purchasing the item, and it is your country of residence that has any applicable duties that may be charged. . . .
Matt is correct as far as it goes. But my point is that duty is not necessarily required, and, therefore, if the shipper insists on shipping via one of the routes which will almost certainly cost unnecessarily high additional charges, fine as long as he pays the charges. 
If he wants my business, I'll have more than a little say in what I'll pay. Insistence upon DHL or FedEx is arbitrary and, almost certainly, a matter of convenience for which I am not willing to pay a premium. Royal mail works fine and costs nothing extra. At least, that seems to be the experience of more than a few here. I like nothing.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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4th December 09, 11:38 AM
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 Originally Posted by Lyle1
If, on a seemingly regular basis, the local Post Masters (agents of the federal government) do not see fit to collect duty fees...
Small note of correction: The U.S. Postal Service does not collect duty. U.S. Customs collects duty after determining the correct tariff and rate for the item in question.
All shipments coming into the U.S. go through a screening process. Shipments in the mail make entry at one of the international mail facilities, where they are reviewed by U.S. Customs officers for potential duty, narcotics, currency, disease agents, midget smuggling, and other contraband. If it's determined that duty should be collected, it's Customs that holds the package and sends you the notice. You may have to pay, and you may not - general experience here is that you won't.
With commercial carriers, all of the shipments are still reviewed, but they may pre-emptively charge you duty - just in case. So Customs may decide that you don't have to pay, but the carrier says you do. And the carriers have been known to use the incorrect tariffs (intentionally or not) to collect a higher rate of duty.
Now, to go back to the original question:
 Originally Posted by Eric Schutte
Anyone give me an idea of what I am facing for a duty tax for a kilt coming into the US?
I've ordered two kilts from Lochcarron, two more from eBay UK, and even yardage from Marton Mills, and I have never been charged duty. All of these were shipped Royal Mail.
The closest tariff I can find is 6104.19.5000, "Women's ... skirts ... of wool or fine animal hair" (there isn't a tariff for kilts, so this is the next closest garment) - duty is 13.6%, if collected.
But:
 Originally Posted by ForresterModern
... also request that they list it on the customs label as "Ethnic Clothing" which is supposed to go through without (much if any) duty.
These items are supposed to be duty free (I'm not finding the exact tariff at the moment ).
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4th December 09, 12:37 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wompet
These items are supposed to be duty free (I'm not finding the exact tariff at the moment  ).
Thank you very much Wompet. I am interested in what you find in the way of an exact tarrif, when you finally locate it.
I take it that kilts, kilt hose, kilt jackets, et cetera are all ethnic garments and, as such, are duty free. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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4th December 09, 02:55 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
I think it's a little unreasonable to expect the company you are buying from to be responsible for paying any duties or customs fees for your importing their product into your country. You are the one purchasing the item, and it is your country of residence that has any applicable duties that may be charged. There is a reason why the shipper bills the recipient of the package, not the sender.
You are the one buying the item, so you should expect to have to pay any applicable costs in getting that item to you.
As you can imagine I import things all the time from the UK to the US, largely for the Scottish Tartans Museum, but for myself personally, as well. Never have I expected the company or person I have been buying from to cover my own customs fees. That's the cost I take on when I choose to buy from another country.
I agree that the customs duty is ours to pay; our country --> our customs (in both senses) , our duty (in both senses) to pay.
However, I think that the exporter should work with you to ship the way you desire. I recently had to pay an additonal 30USD (on $130 purchase) because the company chose to ship DHL when they said they would be using Royal Mail
May you find joy in the wee, ken the universe in the peculiar and capture peace in the compass of drop of dew
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30th November 09, 08:08 PM
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DHL and Fedex collect what they deem are appropriate duty fees for their shipments (and they usually overestimate for their own safety) then add on service fees for doing so, and require payment before or sometimes after delivery. For that amount I would estimate about $60, but that is purely a guess based on a couple of my prior shipments. Ask to have it shipped by Royal Mail or Parcel Force with signature delivery verification, if possible. Takes longer, insurance is not as good, but a much higher likelihood of it getting through customs without getting dinged for duty. also request that they list it on the customs label as "Ethnic Clothing" which is supposed to go through without (much if any) duty. Worth the effort.
The kilt maker prefers to use DHL or Fedex because they can have better tracking and insurance with less likelihood of a lost shipment and potential financial loss for them.
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30th November 09, 08:58 PM
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Royal Mail air mail takes, on average, 8-10 days. I received a package from Scotland on the 27th of November that was posted on the 20th of November. No duty was charged when I collected it from my local post office.
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