Kosher Hair Canvas

[xman]

I've had a request to make a kilt for Jewish man and he is concerned that there be no linen in the kilt. I have read the list of fibres in the hair canvas I have bought, but primarily just to see the percentage of hair that's included and although I don't recall for certain that there is linen in it I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was commonly so. So I'm looking for some hair canvas that doesn't include linen or perhaps for some more simply put, I'm looking for kosher canvas. Can anyone offer some insight, suggestions and/or directions?

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[Dixiecat]

http://www.habermanfabrics.com/scart...nterfacing.htm

http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/Int...s-Hymo-62.html

Hymo Hair Canvas - medium weight. Fibre content 80%wool 40%goat hair. Hope that content is ok. Also, two layers of medium weight can create a nice heavy weight stiffness.

[sydnie7]

There have been several threads along this line. Searching brings up this thread, for example, in which Steve provides burn test guidelines. There was also a thread and link (which I can't find just now, sorry) to a fellow's website where he addressed the question exhaustively in the context of having a very special kilt made with all sorts of hidden meanings in thread count, pleat count, not stitched on the Sabbath, etc. That site might give you some additional insights, I'll keep looking or perhaps another member has it to hand.

[Paul Henry]

I'm not sure if there are degrees of acceptance with what can go into a kilt, I mean the type of fabrics and thread. I did have a long telephone conversation with Rabbi Passo ( to whom Sydnie refers, I'll find the thread in a moment)and he was very careful to ensure there were no mixed fibres at all. I quizzed him about polyester thread, or cotton thread and he forbade the use of them as well.His kiltmaker had to sew with woollen thread , which must have been extremely difficult,and I would venture to suggest not as strong as well.I wonder what the lining was made out of.
Perahps it is best to ask the client exactly what is allowed, if it's only linen that is forbidden that will make the making much easier.

This is the thread
rabbinical tartan and kilt

[davidlpope]

See this thread:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...reality-64472/

[xman]

See this thread:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...reality-64472/

I did see that thread, but found this quote disheartening:

The kilter also developed an unique method of of using special stabilising materials and procedures, capable of handling extreme pulling of the tartan without any shifting of the tartan. This process remains proprietary and confidential.

(my bold)

http://www.habermanfabrics.com/scart...nterfacing.htm

http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/Int...s-Hymo-62.html

Hymo Hair Canvas - medium weight. Fibre content 80%wool 40%goat hair. Hope that content is ok. Also, two layers of medium weight can create a nice heavy weight stiffness.

Ta muchly. That should do the trick nicely.

Thanks to everyone for your input.

[Paul Henry]

See this thread:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...reality-64472/

That's the same as the one I already quoted, just in case people think there are more than one

[Ryan Ross]

Hymo Hair Canvas - medium weight. Fibre content 80%wool 40%goat hair.

That fabric sounds pretty unbelievable.

[Dixiecat]

That fabric sounds pretty unbelievable.

Oh. Well, they use super goats so it all adds up. ;)

This process remains proprietary and confidential

Pffft. Don't let that statement bother you. Sew-ers can devise all sorts of solutions to their problems with a little thought. As a sew-er, considering that he's talking about stabilizing/steeking methods in a kilt, that proprietary and confidential statement is a little over the top.

[xman]

Pffft. Don't let that statement bother you. Sew-ers can devise all sorts of solutions to their problems with a little thought. As a sew-er, considering that he's talking about stabilizing/steeking methods in a kilt, that proprietary and confidential statement is a little over the top.

Indeed, but it is a little off putting. Gives me the impression that they might not be that helpful.