Interesting find on a Geoffrey the Tailor kilt

[NorCalPiper]

I did a buckle move to day on a Geoffrey kilt and realized that he does not employ a reverse pleat on the under apron. Is the reverse pleat a "kilt maker's option". I always have employed it and found it unusual that it wasn't employed on this kilt.

[Downunder Kilt]

I have a fully hand sewn kilt from Scotweb that does not have a reverse pleat on the under apron (fringe side) I purchased it about 4-5 years ago, just before they went to machine or hand sewn. It is their model known as The Balmoral and I believe made by the firm Balmoral

[Guinness>water]

My kilt made by Geoffry tailor dosent have a reversed pleat. It being the first kilt I ever bought, I didnt know there was another way.

Check your PM, by the way.

[xman]

This Geoffrey, part of the Kilt Kollection, does not either.

[davidg]

I purchased a traditional 8 yard hand sewn heavyweight from them about 18 months ago and mine does have a reverse pleat

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I just completely ripped apart a G.T. made kilt (several years old) for a complete rebuild for a client. It had a reverse pleat on the under-apron, just as you'd normally expect.

[NorCalPiper]

Seems strange......I would understand if it were a possible time saver NOT including it to keep the price down, but that aspect of the build takes very little time, and I feel adds a certain tailored dimension to the kilt. Go figure......

[davidg]

Seems strange......I would understand if it were a possible time saver NOT including it to keep the price down, but that aspect of the build takes very little time, and I feel adds a certain tailored dimension to the kilt. Go figure......

Not all kilts are equal though. GT makes a range of different specs and it would be interesting to see whether there was a common link between those that have this reverse pleat missing (e.g. casual kilts or similar). Certainly there would be a marginal saving in cloth used which could amount to a considerable financial saving if selling such kilts on a large scale

[Pleater]

Perhaps I am being lavish, but I put about 2 ft of fabric into the under apron pleat and the shaping of the under apron.

That is only a foot of double width material, but it would make a considerable difference to the amount paid out for fabric when numbers of kilts are being made.

One of the things which got me enthused about kilts was the extravagant use of good quality fabric for each one.

Even expensive women's clothing is designed and made from the smallest amount of the cheapest materials they can get away with.

It looks as though somone with the same sort of thinking is working for GT, - it does beg the question, what will the next economy be?

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[guardsman]

well my kilt was made by carol fitzherbert in south wales and it does have a reverse pleat and its awesome. Measurements are bang on, I would imagine Derek goes to same person. Newport pipe band get kilts of her too.