Jacobite sanctions to be lifted?

[MacSpadger]

I know that there is some fascination with the '45 rebellion here, so some forum members may be interested in the news that some Jacobite sanctions are apparantly being reviewed with the prospects of them being lifted.

I don't know if this link will work outside of the UK, but the news item explains all. The monochrome footage comes from Peter Watkins' 1964 BBC drama-documentary on Culloden.

[Father Bill]

Link works in Canada! Fascinating! Seems to me that we should support this symbolic move any way we can!

[Tobus]

Interesting idea, but methinks it's a "feel good" idea that will open up a huge legal can of worms. As the article says, the sanctions resulted in titles being taken away and lands forfeited. If those measures are removed/revoked/rescinded, will there be a flurry of descendants claiming rights/lands/titles/monies which now belong to someone else?

Maybe those of you in Scotland can help us across the pond understand this a little better. Who is driving this? Is there a popular push for this? Are there people in Scotland today who really feel "tainted" by what their ancestors did almost 300 years ago?

[creagdhubh]

The monochrome footage comes from Peter Watkins' 1964 BBC drama-documentary on Culloden.

A superb wee 'mockumentary.'

Cheers,

[TheBrus]

I remember reading some time back that there are one or two key supporters who would theoretically stand to inherit titles if the attainders were lifted. Does this law still affect peoples' right to own and purchase property? stand for elected office?

[creagdhubh]

Are there people in Scotland today who really feel "tainted" by what their ancestors did almost 300 years ago?

In some areas of the Highlands, as well as with certain clans and families, the distant past is not so distant. In some cases, this can mean more than simply erecting monumental cairns, plaques, and statues to ancestors who took part in famous and not so famous battles. There are several historical "hot topics" that are still widely discussed amongst the Clan Macpherson, particularly clan members that reside in Scotland. Some of these discussions, in which I have witnessed whilst in Scotland, can become rather heated too. It's all very interesting.

Cheers,

[MacSpadger]

Are there people in Scotland today who really feel "tainted" by what their ancestors did almost 300 years ago?

I don't know if tainted is an appropriate word, but it's certainly been the cause of fights and arguments at parties and round the dinner table. I've been refused entry to a pub on Skye because of the tartan of my kilt. (Worse, the next pub was miles away. A quick change into breeks sorted it all out. Then I was back in the kilt for an evening's piping, what a palaver.). There remains a degree of bitterness and animosity for some, yes. 266 years ago is a fairly short time in a country with a long history.

[English Bloke]

I too wonder what the motivation might be.


Being a Cameron doesn't seem to have held this chap back much... So what public office are the descendants prohibited from? If not from the highest office for a Commoner, in the Land?

[creagdhubh]

I don't know if tainted is an appropriate word, but it's certainly been the cause of fights and arguments at parties and round the dinner table. I've been refused entry to a pub on Skye because of the tartan of my kilt. (Worse, the next pub was miles away. A quick change into breeks sorted it all out. Then I was back in the kilt for an evening's piping, what a palaver.). There remains a degree of bitterness and animosity for some, yes. 266 years ago is a fairly short time in a country with a long history.

This is precisley what I was talking about in my last post.

Cheers,

[creagdhubh]

I too wonder what the motivation might be.


Being a Cameron doesn't seem to have held this chap back much... So what public office are the descendants prohibited from? If not from the highest office for a Commoner, in the Land?

Good point, John.