New kilt and jacket.

[LongShanks]

Got a now kilt and jacket from Geoffrey Kilt makers and Weavers when I was in Edinburgh. The Jacket in the order was called Argyll Day/Evening Jacket and Waistcoat. Take a look what would you call this jacket, Argyll Jackets or Braemar Jackets. There it is come out at the bell.

[McMurdo]

I would call it an Argyll with Braemar Cuffs. I would not call it a day jacket as to my mind a day jacket is tweed.

Here are a couple of links that might help
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...rmality-48791/

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-46888/

[imrichmond]

In my experience--and I have been wearing argyle jackets in pipe bands for the past 30-some years--argyle jackets generally have one of three types of cuff: a gauntlet cuff, a braemar cuff, or a plain, single button cuff. Personally, I prefer the braemar cuff, which, to my eye, looks a bit less like a uniform than the gauntlet cuff. Although the black argyle jacket is a bit more dressy perhaps than a tweed jacket, it is nevertheless regularly worn as a day jacket in both North America and Scotland. Indeed, one of its advantages is that it can be suited to a variety of occasions simply by changing some accessories.

[Guinness>water]

Very nice LongShanks! I really like the tartan in your kilt, what is it?

I had a geoffry Tailor kilt once, it was well built and a pleasure to wear.

[Tobus]

I would call it an Argyll with Braemar Cuffs. I would not call it a day jacket as to my mind a day jacket is tweed.

It definitely has what most people refer to as Braemar cuffs, but why do we complicate it with calling it an Argyll jacket with Braemar cuffs? IMHO a traditional Argyll jacket has gauntlet cuffs and would properly be called an Argyll jacket. A jacket with Braemar cuffs would just be a Braemar jacket (which is what I would call this one). But of course, there's no industry consensus, so we will continue to all have different monikers that we can debate.

As for being a "day/evening jacket", I have a slightly different opinion. While I don't think a day jacket necessarily has to be tweed (it can be Barathea wool and still be a day jacket), it's the buttons that make this jacket not really a day jacket. To me, the "day/evening" descriptor is well-suited for the jacket, not because it is particularly suited to either, but because it would be the sort of jacket you'd want to wear for a late-in-the-day function that spills over into evening. To avoid having to change from a daywear outfit to a true evening wear outfit, this jacket would do double-duty. But as a stand-alone daywear jacket, I think the buttons are a little too much.

[LongShanks]

Thanks guys I agree on the jacket being a argyle with braemar cuffs also a day jacket to me is a tweed for me also. The kilt is a Edinburgh District (District) tartan.
them guys at Jeoffry's treat you like your royalty. Guinness did you know they lost there store at the castle entrance.

[McMurdo]

Well said Tobus, perhaps it is the fact that the jacket pictured is both black Barathea and has silver buttons that to me makes it more suitable for evening wear than day wear. Below is a quote from Matt on the Kilt jacket and formality thread that I posted which is now closed, I think it speaks volumes on this subject:

The sleeve details are important, but I do not really think they are the most important factor in evaluating the formality of any given jacket. For example, in your original post, what makes the first jacket more casual looking than the other two is not the fact that it has Argyle cuffs, but the fact that it is a brown color Harris tweed. Cloth like that makes for a superb daywear jacket, but the darker color of the other two jackets you picture make them more suitable for "dressing up" for evening wear if the need arises; sleeve details notwithstanding.

Another caveat is that the names you have given to the different cuff styles are not universally followed. What you have laid out here is how most people would describe those types of sleeves. However, sometimes you'll encounter different usages, so let the buyer beware. For example, to most people a "Crail jacket" is one with plain cuffs. But "Crail jacket" is the name House of Edgar uses for their charcoal-grey kilt jacket with Braemar cuffs.

Some people use the term "Argyle jacket" to mean any kilt jacket with a shape and cut like those you have pictured, regardless of cuff style. What you call an "Argyle" cuff they will call a "gauntlett" cuff. So an "Argyle jacket" can have a gauntlett, braemar, or crail cuff.

Some people call a Braemar cuff a "Prince Charlie" cuff, because that style jacket is normally made with a Braemar cuff.