2nd 3ed and 4the kilt all in 1 go Can any one ID please

**Norbo** · 9th June 14, 07:52 AM

Unfortunately not for me as they are way to small .

A couple of Sundays back while at a car boot I came across a stall holder with these 3 kilts. I picked them up and yes there were 0 wool may be 50'd 60's vintage kilts . No moth hols rips or even marks on them But all a bit worse for were tatty straps and you could see they are very old. The red one I like most and its the heaviest about 1.2kg and 7 yard I turned it up about 6" so its not down to Caid my sons ankle's he is 11.
The orange one will be of Caids sister Aleana she is 8 it will be a full length down to her feet im going to remove the straps put Velcro on it and a press stud for her as it gos around her almost twice LOL , this one is about 1.1kg. She wants a sporran for it as well because her brother and I both have them . I tried to say girls don't normally have them but she wants one all the same

The green one is the lightest at just over 1kg it has less pleats in the back and I think is a 5 yard due to the weight.

I have no idea what the tartans are can any one enlighten me.

and finely this one taken from my twin lakes thread

**chasem** · 9th June 14, 08:10 AM

The orange is MacGregor and the one your son is wearing is MacLachlan ancient.

I know I've seen the green one before, but I can't place it.

**Calgacus** · 9th June 14, 08:17 AM

The green one is Maclean hunting.

**creagdhubh** · 9th June 14, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Calgacus

The green one is Maclean hunting.

Quite right. Here's a rather prominent MacLean (right) wearing it:

**Tobus** · 9th June 14, 10:21 AM

The tops of these 'kilts' look strange, in that they are not constructed like typical modern kilts. The top straps are skinny and very high, allowing virtually no rise to the kilt, and the hip straps are stitched to the outsides of the aprons. It would appear that any internal stabilisers (if so equipped) would only be in the top inch of the kilt, not down where we would normally see them. The top bands of the kilts are odd; more reminiscent of ladies' skirts than kilts. Although with the stitching in the fell area, as well as the usual left-over-right aprons, they do appear rather kilt-like.

I do realise, of course, that not all kilts are built the same. Can the experts weigh in on this? Are these just an older style of kilt construction (or perhaps a local variant)? Or are they something-other-than-kilts?

What are the lengths of these, Norbo?

**creagdhubh** · 9th June 14, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Tobus

The tops of these 'kilts' look strange, in that they are not constructed like typical modern kilts. The top straps are skinny and very high, allowing virtually no rise to the kilt, and the hip straps are stitched to the outsides of the aprons. It would appear that any internal stabilisers (if so equipped) would only be in the top inch of the kilt, not down where we would normally see them. The top bands of the kilts are odd; more reminiscent of ladies' skirts than kilts. Although with the stitching in the fell area, as well as the usual left-over-right aprons, they do appear rather kilt-like.

I do realise, of course, that not all kilts are built the same. Can the experts weigh in on this? Are these just an older style of kilt construction (or perhaps a local variant)? Or are they something-other-than-kilts?

What are the lengths of these, Norbo?

I noticed this as well. The first thing that came to my mind was kilted skirt (mainly due to the unusual waist band and skinny straps and buckles), but the fringe is indeed on the right-hand side, which eludes to a man's kilt. Kilted skirts tend to have the fringe on the left-hand side, as well as being longer and relatively unshaped when compared to a traditional kilt. They may have been homemade for a growing wee laddie, and adjusted accordingly through the years. I have seen old kilts of a similar construction for young Macpherson lads that were continually modified in order to accommodate their growing size.

**TheOfficialBren** · 9th June 14, 09:23 PM

The top straps are at the very top with no rise.

**Norbo** · 9th June 14, 10:16 PM

they were all around the 24" lenth and the straps have been moved a few times for sure some are not even the same strap as I say they have been around for many years and have had a few mods done to them over this time including me turning the MacLachlan ancient about 6 " so it fits my son .

Many thanks for the ID fellers