Jackets?

[MacKenzie]

Another spin-off from the Argyll hose thread.

Interestingly, argyll hose, or diced hose can and are worn with daywear. They are worn with the black barathea silver buttoned(BBSB) argyll jacket as morning coat equivalent for day weddings. Not for general wear of the kilted guests though, but for the members of the "first eleven" should they so choose.

So many types of jackets. BBSB, PC, doublet, Argyll, crail, Braemar, Sherriffmuir, highlander(?).. and the list goes on. And it seems "a tweed" can be just about any style. And this type jacket can be dressed up/down but you wouldn't wear it there or for "day" or "after six".



How about some jacket "guidelines" from the rabble (rousers)?

[Jock Scot]

As a`basic guideline, tweed jackets are not formal, they may be smart, the may be dressed down, they may be well worn out, torn, ragged and battered, they will never be formal, but it is quite acceptable to wear tweed to certain evening events that are not formal. To be clear and perhaps my post was not, black barathea silver buttoned argyll jackets are worn by kilted guests at formal weddings(in the UK they happen in the day hours) but it is the Groom and his family and brides family who wear argyll hose or diced hose( the first eleven) if they so choose. The rest of the kilted guests wear plain hose with their BBSBA.

Tweed day jackets come under several names and argyll, crail and braemar are but three common styles. Basically the same jacket with different style cuffs.

[MacKenzie]

Thanks Jock.

Let me rephrase part of my original post:

And this or that type of jacket (not just "tweed") can be dressed up/down but you wouldn't wear it there or for "day" or "after six".

[Liam]

Have a look here as a starting point:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-46888/

[Jock Scot]

You could also go to, Members written articles and look at the first thread posted there by Colin and Nathan. It will help you no end.

Slightly off topic. But why can't Colin and Nathan's wonderful thread be posted as a "sticky" at the start of this section? It would be far more helpful here than where it is at the moment. Just wondering.NOTE.

NOTE. I have re- posted this question in the "comments and suggestions" section, so to keep this thread on topic. Can I suggest members post their thoughts, if any, in the comments and suggestions section.

[MacKenzie]

Liam, I've consulted that thread many times.

Thanks Jock. I don't know how that thread got by me.

[Nathan]

You could also go to, Members written articles and look at the first thread posted there by Colin and Nathan. It will help you no end.

Slightly off topic. But why can't Colin and Nathan's wonderful thread be posted as a "sticky" at the start of this section? It would be far more helpful here than where it is at the moment. Just wondering.NOTE.

NOTE. I have re- posted this question in the "comments and suggestions" section, so to keep this thread on topic. Can I suggest members post their thoughts, if any, in the comments and suggestions section.

Actually, our article is a sticky in this section now, right at the top of the Traditional Kilt Wear page.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...xamples-85511/

[Liam]

While what Jock says is correct regarding black barathea, one of our members has a fine looking Sheriffmuir in tweed.
See this thread:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...doublet-73343/

[Evestay53]

As a`basic guideline, tweed jackets are not formal, ...

Tweed day jackets come under several names and argyll, crail and braemar are but three common styles. Basically the same jacket with different style cuffs.

Thanks Jock,

I have been searching for an explanation of the differences in these three jackets. The manufacturers don't even provide this explanation.

[MacLowlife]

MY first guideline is one I learned somewhere about Saxon dress- it is always better to be smartly underdressed than overdressed. Having said that, I lean more and more towards simplicity and comfort. That means an open jacket almost all of the time, regardless of how amazingly good the double breasted doublets look. I have said it again and again- I think a NAVY Argyll is nicer than a black one- I wear a navy Saxon blazer several times a week- I almost never ( well, hardly ever) wear a black one. Very soon, I am going to cut down my lightest tissue wool navy blazer for kilt wear.

You will find many XMarkers, especially in the traditional corner, opposed to the PC, but enthusiastic about the Regulation doublet. Most non-kilt wearers couldn't tell you the difference.

I live in South Carolina, where the temperature has not gone below 70F in several weeks- and has been above 100F many days in a row, extra layers seem like a bad idea. Even in the wintertime- ESPECIALLY in the wintertime, when I find myself in crowded parties, where the outside temperature may be chilly, but a sufficient number of bodies at 98.6 has made the atmosphere warm, I like to wear an open velvet jacket. I have managed to find two black watch velvet ones, presently configured as Saxon wear, but slated to go to the tailor's to see which one can be stretched to cover most of my expanded middle. Until that happens, I have a strange black velvet jacket with shawl lapels that resembles a regimental Dress Mess, only, you know, velvet and black.

So, to summarize, simplify, understate, go for the velvet.