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[fabricboi]

https://sites.google.com/site/clanro...amakan-mummies

Found this site and wanted to share it

[Profane James]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[The Wizard of BC]

The actual scientific papers on these archaeological finds was posted to the forum a few years ago.

It's interesting that the Scientists doing the research do not always make the same claims or reach the same conclusions as some others who read about their finds on the web.

The actual scientific papers on these finds have been published and it is very interesting to read them. If you think about it that is how we know about the finds. Scientist publish their findings. That is how they inform the world of what they are doing. I suggest that going to the source and then reaching your own conclusions would be a prudent thing.

Just one of the published papers - This by Dr. Mair who is one of the Scientists doing this research.

http://penn.museum/documents/publica.../52-3/mair.pdf

[Cmcdonald]

That is an interesting site.

Thanks for sharing.

[tripleblessed]

This was mentioned in a thread a couple (?) of years ago. In doing related reading triggered by that thread, I later ran across a DNA analysis related to the distribution of red hair globally. The researchers stated that the closest kin to these mummies are the Sami folk. Their next closest kin listed, IIRC, are located in the northern British Isles. Not my conclusion, their analysis. And, no, I don't believe I still have a link to that article, and yes, my recall could be faulty. Rare, but not w/o precedent.

I mentioned then having personally seen mummies that had been removed from permafrost about 800 miles north of the cemeteries mentioned here. At the time I saw them, they were in a museum in Novosibirsk, but since have been returned to the Altai from whence they were recovered. We were told the contribution our group made to the relocation project was the largest they had received to that date (1999). You may have seen them in the National Geographic special. Blonde hair, blue eyes, horse culture. 6000 years in the ground, according to the Russian team. Virtually anyone seeing them would think of Celts. They would probably also think there is a fairly direct connection to the Takla Makan mummies. I have seen no direct proof either way. Certainly closer cousins to each other than to the Han that are being moved into the area currently. A possible indication that these peoples were around in these regions for quite a while.

The clan Rollo page is apparently due to the tartan textiles found, but the red hair distribution connection might indicate a Norse/Celt/
Sino/Siberian DNA link.

Might.

[OC Richard]

Here's a little discussion about some aspects of Indo-European mtDNA

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...ed-settlements

I could be foggy on this, but I seem to recall that ancient hunters travelled from east to west just below the ice sheet, bringing central Asian DNA to northern Europe.

From a purely visual and non-scientific viewpoint I do notice many northern Europeans having the epicanthic fold to a greater or lesser degree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold

Actress Anna Torv, born in Scotland but of Estonian ethnicity



Actor Barry Keoghan, Irish





Actress Jennifer Lawrence. I don't know her ethnicity but she has the epicanthic fold (which the makeup artists usually try to obscure for some reason)

[Walkman]

Actress Jennifer Lawrence. I don't know her ethnicity but she has the epicanthic fold (which the makeup artists usually try to obscure for some reason)

Jennifer Lawrence is English, German, Irish, Scottish, and a wee bit o' the French according to this source.

[figheadair]

Those that want to know more I thoroughly recomment Dr., Elizabeth Wayland Barber's The Mummies of Ürümchi (New York: W. W. Norton; London: Macmillan, 1999).

I had the pleasure of meeting the author some years ago and to discuss the Urumchi tartans and in particular, their construction which are a mixture of twill and plain weave. Dr. Barber was puzzeled by reason for the difference, I observed that we see the same in historic Highland tartans and that this difference seems to have been due, in part at least, to gender use and that women's clothing was often made from plain weave tartan. Dr. Barber took that idea away but I don't know if she ever persuded it.

[Walkman]

Here's a National Geographic video on the subject: Tamarin Basin Mummies.

[figheadair]

Here's a National Geographic video on the subject: Tamarin Basin Mummies.

Link doesn't work but this one does - China's Dessert Mummies Documentary on the Taklamakan Mummies