Where is this early 19th century coat?

[figheadair]

Found this coat and waistcoat online. It is clearly Wilsons' cloth and probably c1810-30. I would very like examine this outfit, or a better photograph of it. Does anyone know where it is?

[Luke MacGillie]

Since its from Historical Image Bank, That is the Don Trioni collection, so its probably in the North East US.

I don't know Don personally, but a certain cloth weaver and member of the Para's there in England, a guy who specializes in making Historic wool for 18th and 19th Century Uniforms probably does know him and could probably do an introduction.

[figheadair]

Since its from Historical Image Bank, That is the Don Trioni collection, so its probably in the North East US.

I don't know Don personally, but a certain cloth weaver and member of the Para's there in England, a guy who specializes in making Historic wool for 18th and 19th Century Uniforms probably does know him and could probably do an introduction.

Not knowing who the certain cloth weaver and member of the Para's is, can you be more specific? Happy if you want to PM or email me. As a weaver and an ex-Para too we must have a lot in common.

[Luke MacGillie]

I will email you here in a bit. Glad to know your a Para, as I am myself. When we finally meet up will be a grand time!

[dutchy kilted]

I don't know about the specific coat, but I recently had one very similar made for me for the 1790's house museum I volunteer at.

If you were looking for the pattern only, please let me know and I will get you the information.

[figheadair]

Thank you but no, I'm looking for the original coat.

Luke, thank you for the steer. I went straight to the source and found it here where it is described as - Man's coat and waistcoat of Highland tartan circa 1780-90.

I'd have put it slightly later, more like 1800-10. What is certain is that even from a poor quality image it's possible to tell that it's Wilsons' cloth and not 'Highland tartan'.

I've emailed to ask if they know where this coat is.

[Lady Grey]

The photo comes from
Bridgemanimages.com (put tartan in the search box)

Don Troiani is listed as the copyright photographer
It is listed as being held in a private collection along with a similar kilt.

As I was researching your Arisaid question (in another post) I came across it, I'm wondering if it is part of The Carmichael Collection?
The collection was broken up but there is a possibility that it may be at the West Highland Museum in Fort William.
http://www.westhighlandmuseum.org.uk
http://carmichaelwatson.blogspot.com...rtanology.html

Hope that helps

[figheadair]

Thanks for the image lead, I'll check it out. I'm familiar with a lot of the Carmichael collection and don't recognise this as any part of it.

The fact that there is said to be a kilt too makes this even more interesting, especially if it really is late 18th century. I'm more inclined to believe that it's in private hands, but where?

The photo comes from
Bridgemanimages.com (put tartan in the search box)

Don Troiani is listed as the copyright photographer
It is listed as being held in a private collection along with a similar kilt.

As I was researching your Arisaid question (in another post) I came across it, I'm wondering if it is part of The Carmichael Collection?
The collection was broken up but there is a possibility that it may be at the West Highland Museum in Fort William.
http://www.westhighlandmuseum.org.uk
http://carmichaelwatson.blogspot.com...rtanology.html

Hope that helps

[figheadair]

Many thanks for the various leads. I emailed Don Troiani and through him am now in correspondence with the owner in the US. I'm arranging to get some better images to confirm the tartan and also to track down the kilt too.

[figheadair]

Have some more pics, including of the kilt. More detailed ones to follow but current ones allow me to confirm that all the tartan is Wilsons' and that that of the coat and waistcoat is a previously unrecorded sett whereas the kilt tartan is what is now called Dalziel. Interesting find.