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2nd March 22, 10:14 AM
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Kilting in Jordan/Egypt during Ramadan
Hi all,
I’ve been a daily kilt wearer since 10/2014. I rotate between 11 kilts. I own mostly Sportkilts for the price and pockets. I intend to travel to Jordan and Egypt during Ramadan and my wife is worried about adding wardrobe offense to our already offensive US passport. If anyone can give me some good advice on whether my wife and brother would be unnecessarily put at risk, I’d like to consider your input. Please feel free to share my concern with other members not currently on this thread. Thx. Stay Safe.
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2nd March 22, 11:02 AM
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If you or they think it's a risk, then it is. Why take it? Some kind of "I'll do as I please" statement is never worth it if that's what it really is.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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7th March 22, 01:58 PM
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My family visited Egypt when I was a kid, and even the sight of us in shorts was enough to keep us out of many places. These are extremely rigid societies, and the sight of a westerner in (what will more than likely be viewed as) women’s clothing will not be to your advantage- it could even be unsafe.
It’s not worth it.
Trying to avoid “looking like a refugee from a pantomime.” (hat tip Jock Scot)
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8th March 22, 05:59 AM
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Once upon a time I worked in the Middle East. I am very familiar with both countries. I recommend you do your best not to stick out.
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9th March 22, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mael Coluim
Once upon a time I worked in the Middle East. I am very familiar with both countries. I recommend you do your best not to stick out.
There was almost an 'incident' a few years ago, when one of the British diplomatic delegation appeared kilted at an official function, although in a different African country. One of the local host officials (obviously seeing the kilt as a skirt) took him aside and advised that in their country they do not tollerate that kind of degenerate behaviour.
If government officials are are at risk of this kind of closed-minded intollerance, a regular 'tourist' might regret not leaving the kilt at home.
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9th March 22, 07:28 AM
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Unless you can get first rate knowledge from a local or, someone that really knows and understands the situation, I think it might be better not too.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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9th March 22, 10:11 AM
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I lived in the Gulf region for over 5 years. We were very careful not to wear shorts and in some places, wore long sleeved shirts. My wife avoided short sleeve shirts at all times and was careful with skirt length and pants. Urban areas (particularly in Egypt are a bit more relaxed) but if venturing into the country side, a little respect for local customs and social mores goes a long way. Additionally, blending in as much as possible is never a bad idea. As for traveling as an American, while many are frustrated with our politics, there is great fascination and appreciation with our culture and the aspirations that we sadly often fall short of. Many have families or friends in the US and many wish to visit.
So, my bottom line would be collared shirts, trousers, no logos, no cowboy hats. For your companion, long flowy dresses and skirts, blouse (particularly covered elbows) and a light scarf to cover shoulders (or head if necessary) goes a long way. Big cities and/or touristy areas are a bit more relaxed. Might of been overly sensitive on our part but went a long way with the locals we grew to know very well...and greatly appreciated.
Good luck! Great places to visit.
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9th March 22, 10:15 AM
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An additional note...Ramadan is pretty strictly observed even for those who may not be the strictest observers of their religion. It's easy to unintentionally cause offense. Don't be afraid, just be aware and observant when and where you eat, drink or smoke. Just a sip of water in public can cause offense. I've been through Ramadan in all the Gulf States, Egypt, and Jordan. Again, just be considerate.
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10th March 22, 12:44 PM
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Some good advice here. Not a time or place to make yourself stand out – prioritise safety and respecting local customs in this case. Plenty of time to wear what you want back at home.
Worth doing your research on what Ramadan involves too, as it’s easy to cause unintentional offence through ignorance. Once I knew what was involved in it and the meaning behind, it was a lot easier to be considerate and respectful amongst those observing it. It’s an important time – and often a challenging time – for them, so very important to respect that.
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10th March 22, 02:18 PM
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What Should Men Wear in Jordan?
In keeping with the respectable clothing policy, men should wear trousers when visiting Jordan. Whether you are in the city of Amman, exploring Petra or trekking the desert men should refrain from wearing shorts as it is seen as disrespectful. Even in warm weather, light linen or cotton trousers can keep you feeling cool and comfortable so just make sure to pack trousers with materials that suit the weather.
In Jordan tops that do not cover the shoulders are classed as underwear. This rule applies to both men and women so always wear shirts and t-shirts that cover the top of the arms. With this in mind, it should come as no surprise that being topless in public is completely unacceptable no matter how hot the weather is.
Women Travelling in Jordan
Similarly to most neighboring countries, the dress codes for women are stricter than men. Women should refrain from showing flesh as much as possible to respect the Jordanian culture and way of life. To avoid negative attention, female travelers should wear loose clothing which covers the arms, legs, chest and the nape of the neck.
Avoid wearing T-shirts, shorts, and leggings as this can be regarded as sexual clothing. Many female residents in Jordan wear a headscarf and those who choose not to usually keep their hair tied up. Female tourists should also try to follow this etiquette and tie their hair back.
All in all – what to wear in Jordan
When planning what to wear in Jordan, the general rule is to keep shoulders, arms, and legs covered as much as possible. Men have slightly more flexibility when it comes to clothing but women should be sure to cover up and keep hair tied back.
Not only does this follow local customs, it shows that you care about Jordanian culture and local people will respect you for doing so. Don’t worry about getting too hot because there are plenty of loose-fitting, light materials out there that will keep you comfortable.
Wearing trousers and long sleeves also help to prevent visitors from insect bites, sunburn and general cuts and bruises from outdoor activities.
From: https://www.touristjordan.com/what-to-wear-in-jordan/
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