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    How to buy a kilt - the way it used to be done

    You know how it is. You wake up one morning, peek through the curtains at the dew-fresh world and declare 'This is a good day for a new kilt...'

    So off you trot to the nearest kiltmaker, get measured-up, place your order and then wait with strained patience for the wonder garment to arrive. And all the while you reflect on if this is the way it's always been.

    Well, this little gem - https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/6830 - answers that question with delightful nostalgia, bringing back memories for some and confirming for others how little has changed in more than half a century.

    Well worth a watching...

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    Thank you for posting that. It was an enjoyable watch. Too bad the sound doesn't work. (heh heh, I'm so funny)

    Sometimes I reflect on how complex society is, and how an individual person can do so little by themself. Even making a kilt *completely* from scratch would be an enormous undertaking. How do you get wool from sheep if someone hasn't made shearing tools? To clean the wool, you need someone to make the cleaning agent. To dye the wool, you need someone to make the dyes. To weave the threads, you need someone to build a loom. To sew the kilt, you need someone to make the needles. Some of these things I could manage on my own. But all of them? That would take extreme dedication and a massive time commitment.

    These days, I get the convenience to buy the materials and tools I need, sew them together, and pretend that makes me a renaissance man. But the truth is, without the contributions of others, we'd all be living quite primitively.

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    Well my kilting journey has resulted in four or five times being measured and while I have squirmed a bit in disbelief, I have been wise enough to listen to the experts and accept their recommendations. The result is I am quite happy with every custom kilt I have.

    My takeaway is doing your own measurements is like being your own lawyer. Not wise. At least have a professional guide you through the process. You will be much happier.

    For most of us, your pants size is no indicator of your kilt size.

    Kilts are worn differently than pants.

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    Although this film from the 1950s makes the kilt-buying process seem archaic, and a far cry from current trends of buying everything online with some suppliers promising same-day delivery, it serves to show what we have lost in the past 30 years or so. This kind of service has steadily died away over the past few decades.

    What is seen in the film is no longer possible - there is now no native wool grown and processed commercially in Scotland. The nearest wool processing is south of the border in England, and a huge proportion of the fleeces sheared each year (and excellent quality it is too) costs more to shear than the fleece is worth, and it goes straight to land-fill.

    At the same time, wool producers in the UK are importing fleeces from Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, with all the added cost of transport that entails, and the buying public make their purchases based on price. But you get what you pay for.

    There are far too many people who hanker after Highland dress and other traditional Scottish items, but prefer to spend their money on artificial fibre items (PV kilts etc) and those things made and bought on cost rather than on quality. It is not that the Scottish-made items are obsolete - far from it - it is that there are cheaper, foreign-made copies.

    Even a popular favourite like Marton Mills is an English company that weaves tartan (of a very high quality, like all their fabrics) in the weaving heartlands of Yorkshire, and Strathmore's cloth is a similar 'English' product that is woven nearby, which goes to show that Scots themselves are equally responsible for the demise of their domestic production.

    Consequently, most of the age-old Scottish crafts are endangered, and are considered as in a critical position by the government - when the current artisans cease production, they will be gone for ever. So it is good that we can at least see from films like this one how it once was (and some of us fortunate enough to have experienced), and what it is we are losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    What is seen in the film is no longer possible - there is now no native wool grown and processed commercially in Scotland. The nearest wool processing is south of the border in England, and a huge proportion of the fleeces sheared each year (and excellent quality it is too) costs more to shear than the fleece is worth, and it goes straight to land-fill.

    At the same time, wool producers in the UK are importing fleeces from Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, with all the added cost of transport that entails, and the buying public make their purchases based on price. But you get what you pay for.
    Whilst, for economies of scale, all wool scouring is done in England, it is encouraging that the largest Scottish weaver is using Scottish wool for at least some of their tartan. https://ukft.org/lochcarron-scotland-pvjuly22/ Working with them for some special projects I have been impressed by the result of using yarn from this wool with a bespoke finish. The cloth has the feel of tartan from before the 1970s and is the best available for kilting in my opinion.

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    Thanks for that link! What a time-capsule.

    Interesting to see the wearing of Day Dress without tie, the shirt collar open and sticking out. Was that a thing? I don't know if I've seen vintage photos showing it.

    Everything else accords what I would expect from the period of "traditional Highland Dress"

    -kilt with 7 yards (interwar catalogues generally offer kilts in 6, 7, or 8 yards)

    -kilt in the "ancient" colours (which post-WWII can outnumber the number of "modern" tartans listed)

    -brown sporran, black shoes

    -hose in a common tweed-jacket colour

    -red flashes regardless of tartan or hose, note flashes are from the traditional worsted wool tape

    Some of the kiltmaking things are interesting, such as going straight down with a ruler when chalking the front-apron edge, while Elsie Stuehmeyer did it freehand and with a gentle curve.

    Ditto the pinning and basting of the pleats- Elsie didn't do either, but stitched the pleats freehand.

    It's funny how they leap from basting the pleats to the finished kilt! The stitching and cutting out the pleats, the lining, etc are skipped over.

    I love the do's and don'ts chart! Interwar catalogues and articles are full of words like "proper" "correct" and "must", the very things that rile people on the internet these days.
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Off you trot to the nearest kiltmaker, get measured-up, place your order and then wait with strained patience for the wonder garment to arrive.

    And all the while you reflect on if this is the way it's always been.
    Having my grandmother live with us, my first two kilts were acquired the way it had always been in the time and place she grew up, in a log cabin up a West Virginia holler at a time before "store-boughten" clothes were commonplace.

    The process was that I bought the cloth and she made the kilts.

    (buy/bought/boughten, sit/sat/satten, etc.)
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    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
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    What is seen in the film is no longer possible - there is now no native wool grown and processed commercially in Scotland.
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    I was confused by your statement, because Lochcarron uses Scottish wool for their Strome. I had to re-read it to realize I had glossed over the "and processed" portion.

    Although processing is done in England, I do love Lochcarron's commitment to doing as much as possible in Scotland.

    Quote Originally Posted by lochcarron.co.uk
    Although not all the wool we use can be sourced locally, we converted one of our top selling fabrics, our heavyweight Strome cloth, to being sourced completely within the UK, mainly from Scotland. Recently, we have completed this journey, and now source our Romney Marsh wool from Scottish-farmed sheep, allowing us to create our Strome cloth in 100% Scottish wool. In doing so we are supporting local farming and manufacturing, and our wool is sorted and graded locally at the British Wool depot in Selkirk, subsequently reducing transportation distances and emissions. Up to one quarter of the yarn we use annually is now of Scottish origin.

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    Life was definitely slower in the 1950s, and people were better dressed. It would be unusual for a man to be out and about without a jacket and tie even in a manual work environment and I would imagine that the kilt would have been in evidence at some workplaces and definitely in schools.
    I wouldn’t want to return to those dress standards but I do believe we may have gone too in the opposite direction.

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    In the mid 1950s I wore kilts, I had two, leather straps, fastening on the right, rather long on a 5 to 6 year old.
    They were quite old when I got them - but I suspect that if the straps had been replaced it would not have been at all obvious.
    My sister point blank refused to wear them and I suspect they were passed on to a cousin, but I do wonder just how old they were, (I suspect over 20 years) and how long they lasted.
    Whilst I had them they were washed by hand - I suspect that one encounter with hot water in a washing machine would have ruined them beyond recovery, but back then many garments were woollen and my mother used to wash items by hand in the evenings, leave them to drain overnight and then lay them out on a towel to dry.

    Many traditional garment had long lives - English smocks, for instance, were often handed down for a couple of generations or more in the case of children's sized ones. Wool, linen and cotton are long lasting, hard wearing, and were mended or reworked with little thought of it being 'just not the thing'.

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    I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
    -- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.

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