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29th April 11, 07:59 PM
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Tartan of the Month - May. What do you see?
Next month i.e. from tomorrow is going to be rather hectic so I thought I'd get this posted early.
An interesting piece that shouldn't present too much difficulty but which has some unusual aspects to it. What is it and what do you see?
Last edited by figheadair; 29th April 11 at 08:51 PM.
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29th April 11, 08:45 PM
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The herringbone edge along with the rich aniline colours might peg it near the mid-late 19th century.
Perhaps MacLeod of Gesto tartan.
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29th April 11, 09:54 PM
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That is the best picture of herringbone selvedge I have seen yet. I think it looks great.
I am not going to guess on the tartan.
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30th April 11, 02:48 PM
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I would guess the tartan was Loudoun's Highlanders, but this sample appears to have a different warp from its weft, at least from the small sample that is available to be seen.
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30th April 11, 10:29 PM
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 Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield
I would guess the tartan was Loudoun's Highlanders, but this sample appears to have a different warp from its weft, at least from the small sample that is available to be seen.
Bang on, well done. It is the original sample of the Sergt's plaiding sent to Lord Loudoun.
Look again though. The warp and weft are the same sett.
 Originally Posted by xman
The herringbone edge along with the rich aniline colours might peg it near the mid-late 19th century.
Perhaps MacLeod of Gesto tartan.
At that date (1747) it's obviously natural dyes rather than aniline. In this respect it rather nicely makes the point that not all old tartans made from natural dyes were in old colours.
The sett could well be what we now call MacLeod of Gesto or it might be like MacLeod with the R & Y reversed per Jamie Scarlett's speculation for the regiment's tartan which he based on this same sample. Unfortunately the piece is too small to determine which is correct.
 Originally Posted by AKScott
That is the best picture of herringbone selvedge I have seen yet. I think it looks great.
It's not a herringbone but a chevron selvedge. The technique is similar but forms a true zig zag rather than stepping on one place with every direction change as happens in a heringbone. This is the only old example I've ever come across in tartan.
I said that this piece shouldn't present too much difficulty but there's more to see yet.
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30th April 11, 10:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by figheadair
At that date (1747) it's obviously natural dyes rather than aniline. In this respect it rather nicely makes the point that not all old tartans made from natural dyes were in old colours.
Yes indeed. Very interesting.
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Am I seeing two different yellows?
Regards
Chas
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It looks like the Farquharson Modern tartan as well with the black outlining the red... Though I note that the black does not outline the red along the selvedge.
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[QUOTE=Morris at Heathfield;977391]
Other things I noticed: There is a pivot stripe on the selvage, which seems at least a little unusual to me. Also, I was counting the threads in the pivot stripes to see if there was any difference in the warp and weft thread counts. I have to say it's inconclusive, as two of the four pivot stripes are on edges of the cloth. However, I did notice that the red stripe in the weft is seven threads wide—an odd number. Finally, the area where the wide black checks (not sure if that's the right terminology, but they exist on all tartans derived from the Government tartan) cross is noticeably longer in the weft than in the warp. I suspect this observation holds for the entire sett as well.
The elongated effect was often found in old pieces and seems to be a fact of squaring to eye. More often than not the weft is less dense that he warp in pld pieces. One of the side effects, or perhaps it was by design, is that a slightly warp faced cloth is coarser (harder) than a balanced weave.
 Originally Posted by RockyR
It looks like the Farquharson Modern tartan as well with the black outlining the red... Though I note that the black does not outline the red along the selvedge.
It does, although the Farquarson of course has red on both blue squares. We don't know what was on the next blue square. The red along the selvedge is probably a form of sevedge mark and not a reflection of the overall sett.
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26th May 11, 10:16 AM
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I'll write this piece up fully for the end of the month but suffice to say at this point that this is the oldest surviving piece of military tartan and as far as I know, the only extant piece of regimental tartan pre-c1790.
Last edited by figheadair; 26th May 11 at 10:22 AM.
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