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16th September 18, 03:25 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123
Allan Thomson
Where are you getting all of this? This doesn't seem to be true history. Northumbria only ever stretched as far as the South-East of Scotland. Strathclyde, like Pictland, was absorbed directly by Alba.
Alba took the South-East of Scotland from Northumbria. It has nothing to do with Gaelic extremism.
He's referring to the Battle of Nectansmere in the 7th century where the Anglians were defeated, but this was a century and a half before the Scots and Picts unified (how ever that happened).
Northumbria consisted of three regions, Lothian, Bernicia, Deira. All three are thought to represent British Kingdoms that were absorbed by the Angles. The old Welsh poem Y Gododdin represents one of the last attempts by the Gododdin tribe to turn back Anglian encroachment. Based somewhere in Lothian, perhaps Edinburgh, this British army marched south to reclaim land - I think in Deira. They were defeated and the Anglians eventually took Lothian itself and added it to Northumbria.
Later the Scots took the northern third of the Kingdom which was Lothian and the northern part of Bernicia to the Tweed.
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