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1st September 11, 12:33 PM
#241
 Originally Posted by The Bear
what kind of pleats do you think would be best? i have a great kilt but im not wanting to wear that to my wedding. Im going to wear a kilt and fly plaid. Is there any kind of pleat that would have been used back then?
The earliest surviving little kilts have box pleats, and only contain 3-4 yards of tartan.
Some early depictions show them pleated all the way around, like the fellow in the background here:

...or rather haphazardly gathered, like the boy on the right:

Soft, unpressed box pleats are probably your best bet for a "period" philabeg....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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1st September 11, 01:54 PM
#242
Woodsheal, or anyone else, have you ever tried making bag hose like this? These are from Bob Martin's book, All About Your Kilt. I wonder how effective this pattern is. It would surely be less work than some of the other patterns.

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2nd September 11, 08:20 AM
#243
Harold,
It's hard to tell from the photos what sort of pattern is being used. It almost looks like two halves just sewn together, which would put a seam uncomfortably right under the foot!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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2nd September 11, 08:53 AM
#244
It looks to me like one piece of fabric seamed down the back and along the bottom. From my understanding this is the same way Lamar Britt makes the ones he wears. He learned from Bob Martin I believe.
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2nd September 11, 11:53 AM
#245
 Originally Posted by Harold Cannon
It looks to me like one piece of fabric seamed down the back and along the bottom. From my understanding this is the same way Lamar Britt makes the ones he wears. He learned from Bob Martin I believe.
Well, that would work and be easy to make, but I wouldn't want to do any amount of walking or marching with that main seam running under the middle of my foot. Ouch...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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2nd September 11, 01:10 PM
#246
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Well, that would work and be easy to make, but I wouldn't want to do any amount of walking or marching with that main seam running under the middle of my foot. Ouch...! 
If you're careful with the seam, you can't even feel it. I promise.
Bob certainly knows whatof he speaks. 
EDIT: And while they're easy to make after you've devised a pattern to fit your leg, the pattern is very tricky to get right.
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2nd September 11, 01:19 PM
#247
Does anyone know how to make the pattern? Being a man of substance this would be a great alternitive to paying for expensive made to measure hose.
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3rd September 11, 12:41 AM
#248
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3rd September 11, 09:14 AM
#249
 Originally Posted by Harold Cannon
Does anyone know how to make the pattern? Being a man of substance this would be a great alternitive to paying for expensive made to measure hose.
Start with some cheap, tartanesque fabric from the fabric store. Work with the fabris on the bias, and pin the fabric around your leg and foot fairly tightly- you'll need to make sure that the ankle portion is not so small that it can't be stretched over your heel. Then sew it up and turn it right side out and see how it fits. Ajust that until you get a fairly tight fit everywhere, but you can still get your heel past the ankle. Once you're there, take out the seam of the well-fitting one and trace it onto some kind of pattern material. Then, use that pattern on some of your good material and you'll be set to go.
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4th September 11, 10:11 PM
#250
I read this rhread from start to finish and I'm curious as to wether any Lowlanders fought in the uprisings, and if so, what did they wear since they probably would not have worn a kilt. Or would they?
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