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14th December 11, 03:48 AM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
... For me this would is a non starter. ... I don't see this as the evolution of the tartan kilt. ... those pockets are difficult to see at a glance and only after staring for a while would I notice that they were there, that would be the price of admission right there.
Grant. I'm just dipping my toes in the water and I bow to your experience with modern kilts which is considerably greater than mine. I understand that you are committed to one style (traditional Scottish) OR the other (contemporary) rather than a hybrid mash-up, but this is precisely why I think this Kilt is such a breakthrough. It DOES look like a traditional Kilt at first glance. It is great and innovative styling to combine contemporary features with traditional materials. I think it's a superb piece of work though I do appreciate the complexities of production. Unfortunately this probably puts it out of the reach of most Kilt buyers and means it will likely remain unique.
I'll bet Hamish would like one!
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14th December 11, 04:02 AM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by English Bloke
Grant. I'm just dipping my toes in the water and I bow to your experience with modern kilts which is considerably greater than mine. I understand that you are committed to one style (traditional Scottish) OR the other (contemporary) rather than a hybrid mash-up, but this is precisely why I think this Kilt is such a breakthrough. It DOES look like a traditional Kilt at first glance. It is great and innovative styling to combine contemporary features with traditional materials. I think it's a superb piece of work though I do appreciate the complexities of production. Unfortunately this probably puts it out of the reach of most Kilt buyers and means it will likely remain unique.
I'll bet Hamish would like one!
I am sorry EB, that really does not look like a traditional kilt at first glance. How can it with those pockets standing out like a sore thumb and with all those narrow belt loops? It is without doubt a skilled piece of work, but not traditional at first glance.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 14th December 11 at 04:32 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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14th December 11, 06:45 AM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by English Bloke
Grant. I'm just dipping my toes in the water and I bow to your experience with modern kilts which is considerably greater than mine. I understand that you are committed to one style (traditional Scottish) OR the other (contemporary) rather than a hybrid mash-up, but this is precisely why I think this Kilt is such a breakthrough. It DOES look like a traditional Kilt at first glance. It is great and innovative styling to combine contemporary features with traditional materials. I think it's a superb piece of work though I do appreciate the complexities of production. Unfortunately this probably puts it out of the reach of most Kilt buyers and means it will likely remain unique.
I'll bet Hamish would like one!
Then this exercise in modernizing a traditional kilt is successful. It's certainly generating a lot of buzz. For me the evolution of traditional kilts is Steve Ashton's hidden front slash pockets on a traditional style tartan built kilt. Machine stitching and PV are other important evolutions. The reasons for me liking modern kilts are that (not the machine stitched PV variety) is that they are (to steal the tag from RKilts themselves) based on tradition and built for today. They share visual clues from traditional kilts but the materials used beit hemp, leather or canvas ensure that they're not mistaken as anything but modern. They are rugged, throw on the floor, chuck in the washing machine durable sort've thing. I abuse my kilts, I work in them, live in them. I jam tools and screw in the pockets when working on construction jobs. Crawl under the car? Hell why not, scare the neighbours dog, I don't care ecause the tool I need to tighten my exhaust is right there in my pocket. With the above kilt I wouldn't be straddling joists or dragging my butt across ashphalt because of the very nature of the material. I know Robert's craftsmanship would hold up but not the material itself.
I like the differences between the two styles (or era's if you will). I can wear a modern kilt, with a tee shirt and not worry too much aout getting it dirty or catching a nail. I also like the traditional kilts for which, when I wear it I'll dress apropriately, more traditional, even though as an Englishman I can't be "traditional". So much so that Jock Scot would say "There's a well dressed young man, now fetch my loader I'm going to pretend he's a grouse".
If this gets your gears churning for the foray into "modern" kilts go for it. I'll still share a pint with you down at the local. I can assure you that if you want one it doesn't take too much to twist Robert's arm.
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14th December 11, 06:56 AM
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14th December 11, 11:09 AM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
Then this exercise in modernizing a traditional kilt is successful. It's certainly generating a lot of buzz. For me the evolution of traditional kilts is Steve Ashton's hidden front slash pockets on a traditional style tartan built kilt. Machine stitching and PV are other important evolutions. The reasons for me liking modern kilts are that (not the machine stitched PV variety) is that they are (to steal the tag from RKilts themselves) based on tradition and built for today. They share visual clues from traditional kilts but the materials used beit hemp, leather or canvas ensure that they're not mistaken as anything but modern. They are rugged, throw on the floor, chuck in the washing machine durable sort've thing. I abuse my kilts, I work in them, live in them. I jam tools and screw in the pockets when working on construction jobs. Crawl under the car? Hell why not, scare the neighbours dog, I don't care ecause the tool I need to tighten my exhaust is right there in my pocket. With the above kilt I wouldn't be straddling joists or dragging my butt across ashphalt because of the very nature of the material. I know Robert's craftsmanship would hold up but not the material itself.
I like the differences between the two styles (or era's if you will). I can wear a modern kilt, with a tee shirt and not worry too much aout getting it dirty or catching a nail. I also like the traditional kilts for which, when I wear it I'll dress apropriately, more traditional, even though as an Englishman I can't be "traditional". So much so that Jock Scot would say "There's a well dressed young man, now fetch my loader I'm going to pretend he's a grouse".
If this gets your gears churning for the foray into "modern" kilts go for it. I'll still share a pint with you down at the local. I can assure you that if you want one it doesn't take too much to twist Robert's arm.
I am stunned by Grants degree of articulation! Well said! I also agree with English Bloke...it's Ace!
Now....
While I am certain that the workmanship is probably first rate, and the general execution is flawless, I happen to agree with Grant....PERSONALLY I wouldn't wear this. Not that I have a problem with cargo pockets on a contemporary kilt, they're completely fine and man are they practical, it's just that I like the look on a camouflage or solid color kilt. Also, PERSONALLY, I prefer slash pockets to cargo, on a kilt.
But that's just me, and my personal preferences. I salute Robert for taking a chance and trying something new, and I have no doubt that he executed it admirably.
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14th December 11, 04:33 PM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by Alan H
I am stunned by Grants degree of articulation!
Alan,
He has been known (on rare occassion) to have brief moments of lucidity/sobriety/sanity.
I wouldn't count on it becoming a habit for him though...
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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16th December 11, 08:56 PM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
English Bloke, I'm 54 and I wear my X Kilt and my camouflage knockaround kilt quite often. No worries.
You bought it....so wear it!
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17th December 11, 01:32 PM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
On reflection. Post removed.
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16th December 11, 09:21 PM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by Panache
He has been known (on rare occassion) to have brief moments of lucidity/sobriety/sanity.
I wouldn't count on it becoming a habit for him though...
Is that when he's actually taking his medication Jamie, and not just tucking it in under his tongue to spit out later when the orderly is looking the other way?
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16th December 11, 11:45 PM
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Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!
 Originally Posted by Alan H
I am stunned by Grants degree of articulation!
Yes, you'll find me quite flexible at times.
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