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24th July 12, 09:12 AM
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@ Jock:
I appreciate your open words and the insight in the scottish soul. I am aware of the possible "conflicts" if I wore the bonnet in Scotland in the above way. I assure you: it will not happen.
Actually it is a compromise solution, with material at hand and with colours appealing to me. More or less prove of concept.
@ John:
I intend to do it with my own tartan as I have some extra length, though I didn't find the time yet. When I made those above my own was not yet delivered.
But there are still the silk/textile bluebells on my mind. If someone knows of a source (preferably in the EU) please let me know.
Hejdå Jörg
 Originally Posted by Pleater
Weeelll - once I was walking along the row of shops near us and passed a young couple, she was wearing a narrow strip of denim for a skirt and a couple of handkerchieves worth of fabric for a blouse and it was losing the fight to stay closed - I was almost out of earshot when he enquired 'why doesn't your skirt move like that?' Anne the Pleater
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24th July 12, 09:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by Piipriker
@ Jock:
I appreciate your open words and the insight in the scottish soul. I am aware of the possible "conflicts" if I wore the bonnet in Scotland in the above way. I assure you: it will not happen.
Actually it is a compromise solution, with material at hand and with colours appealing to me. More or less prove of concept.
@ John:
I intend to do it with my own tartan as I have some extra length, though I didn't find the time yet. When I made those above my own was not yet delivered.
But there are still the silk/textile bluebells on my mind. If someone knows of a source (preferably in the EU) please let me know.
Hejdå Jörg
Alright, I have to say it and I will say nothing more on this thread. With the greatest of respect this is where I and some other Scots start to have problems with this attitude of "I know I am breaking the Scottish social niceties when wearing the kilt and I am still going to ignore it".In my view if you are going to wear Scottish attire that has considerable historical and national meanings and then proceed to ignore the bits that are inconvenient to you (ignorance I can understand and tolerate) just puts the whole thing in to costume class and the "playing at being a Scot" catigory and does cause offence however hard you to try to say otherwise, and frankly I would much prefer if you chose to wear anything but the kilt and glengarry. I accept it is your choice to do as you please, but can I ask you to reconsider?
Last edited by Jock Scot; 24th July 12 at 10:20 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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24th July 12, 10:09 AM
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Aye Jock.
Elsewhere, CMcG has asked "What is "sharp" to you. With all respect and understanding of the fact of where you are and your circumstances, "sharp" has to include some knowledge of, respect for, and conformity to those "norms" which mark out and define the garment you're wearing. To do otherwise, to me at least, might make me wonder if one is coming from a position of ignorance, or disrespect for the traditions from which the garment hails and I would then begin to wonder why anyone would want to wear it in those ways.
But then... I am a traditionalist.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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29th July 12, 11:39 AM
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Hmmm, this is where I hold my tongue yet again.
Although, as is often the case, the initial word "why" is not far away.
It's not just the tartan mixing, if someone wore something that that in Scotland it would just be considered really bizzare, as would the wearer.
And, yes, there would be those that would take offence, or believe someone was ridiculing their culture. This is where I sigh and go and do a bit of gardening for a while. You get a nice view of the Kilpatrick Hills from my back garden and I find it quite soothing.
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29th July 12, 12:25 PM
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way back in 50's and 60's they had these rosettes ..of ribbon ..funny I saw them on the paper mache hats the kids (me being one) wore ..about 1962 -ish ..I alwasy got a kick out of the tyrolean and jagd hut with the deer or boar even badger ..decorations ..but color's nice too ..the rosette ribbons were a thinner silk or cotton ribbon ..folded and sewed ..
there were trailing "tags" with an indented cut for decoration ..what we'd'a called a 4H or country fair prize type award .
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29th July 12, 12:35 PM
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 Originally Posted by Piipriker
I am aware of the possible "conflicts" if I wore the bonnet in Scotland in the above way. I assure you: it will not happen.
You run into people all over the world at the most unexpected times and places who know the particulars of proper Scottish attire. When you wear it, you represent it, regardless of your intent. It is yet another case where respect should outweigh personal preference, IMHO.
Shutting up and moving on now...
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