Decoration for Glengarry

[Piipriker]

recently I bought a navy Glengarry from Kyle. My first intention was to decorate it with silk bluebells, but didn't find anything on the web.

So I made my own "flowers" from two tartan swatches: "Buchanan ancient" and "Hay & Leith modern", both 10oz. from Lochcarron.
The swatches were folded to something resembling a flower and bound with a pipe cleaner.

[Jock Scot]

I don't want to pour cold water over your undoubted skill, but just so you know. It is one of those "social niceties" that many observe in Scotland where we do not mix different clan tartans.

[ScotFree]

Perhaps in Germany they're a bit more integrative???? Actually I rather like the effect. I'm not sure that forming bonnet decorations from scraps of tartan exactly qualifies as mixing tartans like wearing a McDonald kilt with a Campbell fly. But, then again, there does seem to be a great deal of significance to what one clips to one's hat. Those better versed in protocol I'm sure will correct any errancies on my part.

[Jock Scot]

Perhaps in Germany they're a bit more integrative???? Actually I rather like the effect. I'm not sure that forming bonnet decorations from scraps of tartan exactly qualifies as mixing tartans like wearing a McDonald kilt with a Campbell fly. But, then again, there does seem to be a great deal of significance to what one clips to one's hat. Those better versed in protocol I'm sure will correct any errancies on my part.

I accept that your knowledge of tartans and clans are not great and I quite understand that we all have to start from somewhere, but on a "just so you know " basis. The Campbell/MacDonald thing is only one of many, many inter-Clan enmities that litter the assorted Clan histories and these can go back many years (600 years plus, quite often). Which is why it is wise to know the history of the clan tartan that you are wearing as even these days it can cause upset. So to avoid an incident------usually in the beer tent these days-----we just wear one clan tartan(different tartan within the same Clan is OK) and the correct clan badge to avoid these tricky episodes.

[English Bloke]

... It is one of those "social niceties" ...

Jock is right, to 99% of people, particularly in Germany, it won't matter. To the odd few you encounter who "know", it may draw comment, particularly if you're also wearing a kilt in a different tartan altogether. Could you make another in a swatch of the same tartan(s) as the Kilt(s) you wear?

[Piipriker]

@ Jock:
I appreciate your open words and the insight in the scottish soul. I am aware of the possible "conflicts" if I wore the bonnet in Scotland in the above way. I assure you: it will not happen.

Actually it is a compromise solution, with material at hand and with colours appealing to me. More or less prove of concept.

@ John:
I intend to do it with my own tartan as I have some extra length, though I didn't find the time yet. When I made those above my own was not yet delivered.

But there are still the silk/textile bluebells on my mind. If someone knows of a source (preferably in the EU) please let me know.

Hejdå Jörg

[Jock Scot]

@ Jock:
I appreciate your open words and the insight in the scottish soul. I am aware of the possible "conflicts" if I wore the bonnet in Scotland in the above way. I assure you: it will not happen.

Actually it is a compromise solution, with material at hand and with colours appealing to me. More or less prove of concept.

@ John:
I intend to do it with my own tartan as I have some extra length, though I didn't find the time yet. When I made those above my own was not yet delivered.

But there are still the silk/textile bluebells on my mind. If someone knows of a source (preferably in the EU) please let me know.

Hejdå Jörg

Alright, I have to say it and I will say nothing more on this thread. With the greatest of respect this is where I and some other Scots start to have problems with this attitude of "I know I am breaking the Scottish social niceties when wearing the kilt and I am still going to ignore it".In my view if you are going to wear Scottish attire that has considerable historical and national meanings and then proceed to ignore the bits that are inconvenient to you (ignorance I can understand and tolerate) just puts the whole thing in to costume class and the "playing at being a Scot" catigory and does cause offence however hard you to try to say otherwise, and frankly I would much prefer if you chose to wear anything but the kilt and glengarry. I accept it is your choice to do as you please, but can I ask you to reconsider?

[Father Bill]

Aye Jock.

Elsewhere, CMcG has asked "What is "sharp" to you. With all respect and understanding of the fact of where you are and your circumstances, "sharp" has to include some knowledge of, respect for, and conformity to those "norms" which mark out and define the garment you're wearing. To do otherwise, to me at least, might make me wonder if one is coming from a position of ignorance, or disrespect for the traditions from which the garment hails and I would then begin to wonder why anyone would want to wear it in those ways.

But then... I am a traditionalist.

[MacSpadger]

Hmmm, this is where I hold my tongue yet again.
Although, as is often the case, the initial word "why" is not far away.
It's not just the tartan mixing, if someone wore something that that in Scotland it would just be considered really bizzare, as would the wearer.
And, yes, there would be those that would take offence, or believe someone was ridiculing their culture. This is where I sigh and go and do a bit of gardening for a while. You get a nice view of the Kilpatrick Hills from my back garden and I find it quite soothing.

[georgeetta]

way back in 50's and 60's they had these rosettes ..of ribbon ..funny I saw them on the paper mache hats the kids (me being one) wore ..about 1962 -ish ..I alwasy got a kick out of the tyrolean and jagd hut with the deer or boar even badger ..decorations ..but color's nice too ..the rosette ribbons were a thinner silk or cotton ribbon ..folded and sewed ..
there were trailing "tags" with an indented cut for decoration ..what we'd'a called a 4H or country fair prize type award .
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