gut bigger than hips.

**Grizzly** · 6th June 13, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Seago

And this is why it's best to get something made for YOU by a good kiltmaker, not something off-the-rack.

I can do off the rack; but that's because when clothing designers came up with the the concept of a generic "size Medium" for off the rack garments, I'm the guy they were thinking of.

"Overall" proportions need to be considered. My own true waist is about an inch above my navel, and my kilts have a fairly low rise. coming up about an inch above that. I think that proportionally, for ME, it looks good:

I find that this is also high enough -- for me -- not to leave any shirt showing when I wear a waistcoat:

Dale you are always a snappy dresser, I just can't see you in the second picture though.

**Grizzly** · 6th June 13, 09:18 PM

I am a 51-52 waist and I wear my kilts at the true waist height, luckily my hips are slightly bigger but I have NATSO. Like most GoS my kilt does suffer from the effects of gravity, but I just hitch it up again when necessary.

**tundramanq** · 17th June 13, 11:59 AM

I am a hip wearer for post surgical reasons. I find that a 2.5 inch leather belt really helps in keeping the kilt aprons from "dipping" too much as well as spreading out the pressure needed to "nail it" in place without causing tender spots on my skin or internally.

My current natural waist is 33, waist at hip level (atop the pelvic points) 33 and hips are 36 inches only 3 inches below.
My best fit for Rocky's casuals are waist 34 x hip 39 x hem 22. The 3 inch oversize hip dimension forces an extra tapered pleat on each hip that makes the rapid size change from waist to hip very well.

34 inch off the shelf traditional kilts, fit as OK as can expected.
33 inch Utilikilts fit me great as they are designed for hip level.

**Alan H** · 20th June 13, 09:23 PM

I have a thought for very overweight guys with a gut. Don't use sporran straps. Instead, hang your sporran from your kilt belt using "sporran hangers". My observation is that the hangers allow the sporran to hang straight down below the belt buckle, and let the aprons of the kilt fall freely below that. Sporran straps pull the aprons in, creating a huge fold/crease/dent in them that accentuates the gut. I suppose that if your belt won't stay in place, then this might not be a good solution, but maybe worth a try?

I really like the "I'm Fat. Let's Party." t-shirt. Just say it. I hate this mumbo-jumbo beating around the bush of "gentleman of substance". If you're fat, then you're fat. Using silly phrases isn't going to change the fact of it.

Look, I'm bald. BALD. I just say so, I don't try to get silly with terms like "follicly-challenged gentleman" or something. If you're fat, then you're fat, just like I'm bald. It's not like it's a condemnation of your character, it's not like saying that you're mentally inept, it's not a judgement call on your value as a human being, it's just a physical fact of your body.

**Llama** · 21st June 13, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Alan H

I really like the "I'm Fat. Let's Party." t-shirt. Just say it. I hate this mumbo-jumbo beating around the bush of "gentleman of substance". If you're fat, then you're fat. Using silly phrases isn't going to change the fact of it.

Thanks

I'd party with you anytime, Alan.

**Alan H** · 21st June 13, 05:55 PM

Well, all righty, then! .... But you gottas wear the t-shirt.

Maybe I should get one that says "I'm Bald. Let's Party."

**Grizzled Ian** · 22nd June 13, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Alan H

Well, all righty, then! .... But you gotta wear the t-shirt.

Maybe I should get one that says "I'm Bald. Let's Party."

I'll have one, in black, size L thank you!

**andycwb** · 23rd June 13, 02:27 AM

Fat, grey and balding. But gorgeous young women come and talk to me when I wear a kilt.

Party on!

**Grizzled Ian** · 23rd June 13, 07:30 AM

Seriously, though, I have an idea that we would all, bean-poles and beach balls alike, not only look very different, but also not have the true waist/jeans waist problem, if we gave the Great Kilt a go. Now that the dangerous machinery of the industrial revolution has mostly been recycled, we can go back to wearing the simpler style - can't we? We can't? It's gone the same way as Latin? Oh well, back to the song title game.

**FinleyJackson** · 25th July 13, 02:16 PM

My hubby wears his on his natural waist or it wont stay up but he is a little uncomfortable with the "look" of it as per his current jeans waist location (He is about 80-90 lbs overweight) - until he sees other people wearing it the same way- then it is game on. He is really getting used to wearing one (he is not scottish, I am) and wears the Black Watch one - he even struts his stuff a little wearing one.