Sporran identification

[blackwatch70]

That’s what I was told and it did come with an ORs kilt. I’ve enquired elsewhere just in case my source is contradicted. He is ex-QOH, not Cameron Highlanders but that’s what he reckoned.

The problem is the cantle of Your sporran is Seaforth pattern and never could be worn by Camerons...

[Jags]

My thoughts exactly. The closest I’ve seen is the sporran of an Officer in the QOH. As previously posted, Seaforth pattern with new post amalgamation badge. My sporran has never been tinkered with, the Cameron badge is original to the cantle. As I understood it, after amalgamation, the regiment wore MacKenzie tartan for all but very senior ranks. My kilt is Cameron which wouldn’t have been worn by QOH ORs.

The problem is the cantle of Your sporran is Seaforth pattern and never could be worn by Camerons...

[48HofC]

My thoughts exactly. The closest I’ve seen is the sporran of an Officer in the QOH. As previously posted, Seaforth pattern with new post amalgamation badge. My sporran has never been tinkered with, the Cameron badge is original to the cantle. As I understood it, after amalgamation, the regiment wore MacKenzie tartan for all but very senior ranks. My kilt is Cameron which wouldn’t have been worn by QOH ORs.

The pipes and drums of the QOHldrs (QOH denotes the Queens Own Hussars btw) are the only members of the regiment who wore the Cameron tartan kilt as did the Highlanders and now 4SCOTS. All ranks of the QOHldrs wore Cameron trews though. Your kilt could just be from the P&D’s. Through all the posts, I can’t figure out which sporran is the one you are trying to id.

[Jags]

Thank you. Didn’t realise I had been referring to the Queen’s Own Hussars It did occur to me that the kilt might have been P&Ds but they were found together and the sporran doesn’t appear to be P&Ds so this added to my confusion...

The pipes and drums of the QOHldrs (QOH denotes the Queens Own Hussars btw) are the only members of the regiment who wore the Cameron tartan kilt as did the Highlanders and now 4SCOTS. All ranks of the QOHldrs wore Cameron trews though. Your kilt could just be from the P&D’s. Through all the posts, I can’t figure out which sporran is the one you are trying to id.

[48HofC]

Thank you. Didn’t realise I had been referring to the Queen’s Own Hussars It did occur to me that the kilt might have been P&Ds but they were found together and the sporran doesn’t appear to be P&Ds so this added to my confusion...

Do you have a picture of the sporran I can see?

[Jags]

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[48HofC]

Here it is.

I can tell you for sure as it sits, it is not from The Highlanders. The officers wore the Gordons sporran which is opposite colours as yours. The nco’s/snco’s adopted the QOHLDRS sporran which has was a silver, not brass and was embellished with the stags head, not the Camerons St Andrew. The QOHLDRS and earlier the Camerons didn’t wear that style either. The badge on it seems to be a cap badge rather than sporran badge as well. I wonder if others have said that this is a bastardized model. QOHLDRS hair, Gordons cantle, and Camerons cap badge. The best way to get a definitive answer is to contact The Highlanders museum at Fort George.They have a website and Facebook page and are a good bunch to talk to and are generally happy to help.

Are there any markings on the back, generally issued sporrans have the soldiers #on them.

[Jags]

Hi,

For anyone following this thread, here’s a small update. I’ve contacted the museum at Ft. George and hope to hear from them soon. Drum Major’s sporran has been suggested a few times so I’m interested to find out if it is indeed. I had thought the sporran seemed too new and therefore not good enough quality for an officer’s sporran but having seen a couple for sale, one only this week, I’m starting to think otherwise. Combined with the belief that the sporran has only ever had one cantle and that this cantle has never been altered, it leaves me completely flummoxed. Awaiting word from the museum with great anticipation !!!

The pipes and drums of the QOHldrs (QOH denotes the Queens Own Hussars btw) are the only members of the regiment who wore the Cameron tartan kilt as did the Highlanders and now 4SCOTS. All ranks of the QOHldrs wore Cameron trews though. Your kilt could just be from the P&D’s. Through all the posts, I can’t figure out which sporran is the one you are trying to id.

[OC Richard]

I'm late to the party! I almost never look in the misc forum, this ought to be moved to the military forum, I think.

Anyhow the OP has no photo, and I'm in the dark as to what sporran is being talked about.

But here is an Officer's sporran of the Liverpool Scottish, I do believe, which might be mistaken for a Cameron Highlanders sporran, especially if the badge got switched.

[Jags]

Hi, and thanks for joining the party. I found a very blurry image of this online and it is indeed as close as I’ve seen to what I’ve got. The cantle has a different engraving to the edge but mine could be a Liverpool Scottish from a different manufacturer, with a switched badge. It does beg the question why on earth would someone go to all this trouble?! Would a soldier be allowed to wear such a thing?

The museum at Fort George got back to me to say they’ve never seen one like it, so I guess I just need to accept that it’s just plain weird.

As I said before, I’ve kind of gone off it now that I know it’s not an official variation so maybe I’ll be able to find a crazy Cameron that would be keen on it for their collection.

Or maybe I’ll start my own ‘wierd’ collection. You should see the ‘KOSB’ one that’s appeared on my radar. No sign of anything like it anywhere...

Cheers!

I'm late to the party! I almost never look in the misc forum, this ought to be moved to the military forum, I think.

Anyhow the OP has no photo, and I'm in the dark as to what sporran is being talked about.

But here is an Officer's sporran of the Liverpool Scottish, I do believe, which might be mistaken for a Cameron Highlanders sporran, especially if the badge got switched.