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22nd June 07, 11:29 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by Rampant Lion
Here is a link to check out: http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/l...=Content.show&
Now whether or not you decide to keep the Arms (shield part) is up to you. Personally I would stick with the Crest/Badge, but that's me. When I got my tattoo I just got the badge. My brother who got his tattoo at the same time got the Grant motto done as a band around his arm.
OK here’s what I’m going to do. I’m actually going to petition for the right to wear the Coat of arms. Hey, what’s a little paperwork. If I get the right that would be pretty cool, if I don’t, well I’ll deal with it.
As of right now my brothers have took time off and are spending money to get here. It’s as if everything is already I motion, so to change things right now would be a bit of a pain.
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22nd June 07, 11:45 AM
#12
Like I said, don't worry about it. What are they going to do ask you to remove the family crest? Visit the Patriotic section of Bmezine and see how many people have a clan badge or crest tattooed on them. It's really not a big deal at all.
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22nd June 07, 11:52 AM
#13
 Originally Posted by Colin
Like I said, don't worry about it. What are they going to do ask you to remove the family crest? Visit the Patriotic section of Bmezine and see how many people have a clan badge or crest tattooed on them. It's really not a big deal at all.
What Colin said. Lots of people use coats of arms and the like for all kinds of purposes. You are in Chicago, I don't think the Lord Lyon has jurisidiction there.
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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22nd June 07, 04:19 PM
#14
OK here’s what I’m going to do. I’m actually going to petition for the right to wear the Coat of arms. Hey, what’s a little paperwork. If I get the right that would be pretty cool, if I don’t, well I’ll deal with it.
Oliver, I can bet they won't give you permission because it's already somebody else's (John Mackintosh of Mackintosh) arms. To petition for your own arms is a pricey process.
I agree with what people have said about there not being a prohibition against using someone else's arms on this side of the pond, but for me it boils down to respecting my chief's private property. Like Colin (I think) said, though, no one is going to tell you to take it off or throw you in jail. May I suggest using the crest badge only? There are some good examples of X-Markers who have done just that on the tattoos thread.
Still, I respect that it's your decision what to put on your body and whatever you decide, I think you'll be happy with your tat.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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22nd June 07, 04:28 PM
#15
Nice design, I would stick with what you have as you drew it up (with your Tattoo Artist's clean up of course.) Good luck with it and make sure to let us see it, how big will the piece be and are you going Colour or Black and White?
Oh ya I've got 6 tattoos at the moment there are many here who have some ink.
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22nd June 07, 06:56 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by obuchiteck
Oh CRAP! My Brother's are on their way up here next week. Where are the threads pertaining to this. or could someone just give me the synopsis.
Like I said in my intro, I’m new to my heritage (long story) and I don’t want make a huge mistake.. Nevertheless I freaking love the Crest and want to keep it if I can, but I don’t want to offend anyone.
The authority you want is The Court of the Lord Lyon. The quick answer is that's what the clan crest with a belt around means: you're part of that clan. No belt, feather or feathers, etc, are specific ranks.
But really, unless you're claiming to be the actual Clan Chief, nobody is going to bother you.
The legal stuff is here.
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23rd June 07, 03:09 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Macman
Oliver, I can bet they won't give you permission because it's already somebody else's (John Mackintosh of Mackintosh) arms. To petition for your own arms is a pricey process.
I agree with what people have said about there not being a prohibition against using someone else's arms on this side of the pond, but for me it boils down to respecting my chief's private property. Like Colin (I think) said, though, no one is going to tell you to take it off or throw you in jail. May I suggest using the crest badge only? There are some good examples of X-Markers who have done just that on the tattoos thread.
Still, I respect that it's your decision what to put on your body and whatever you decide, I think you'll be happy with your tat. 
 I was joking about aplying for permision to wear the crest..
In any case, I don’t want to be disrespectful so what I decided to do is instead of the crest I’m going to putt the red lion and yellow background (the old Scottish flag) in the shield.
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23rd June 07, 03:47 PM
#18
i too have had the idea of our MacDuff buckle inked on my left calf..right ones got some bike related ink on it...but have actually held off on getting it because of questions related to arms and heraldry vs clan buckle...all in all its my leg and if im in hose ya wouldn't be able to see it anyway..but in my UK with doc martins or vans..im sure somebody somewhere will comment.
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24th June 07, 02:44 PM
#19
I think that will look great. Can you post a pic when it's done?
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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24th June 07, 03:42 PM
#20
I've got some ink.
Its your skin/canvas
Follow your heart, not the rules.
Ron
Last edited by Riverkilt; 24th June 07 at 03:42 PM.
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