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20th October 08, 01:08 PM
#31
Originally Posted by davedove
It is not illegal to fly a foreign flag in the US. Where you get into trouble with the flag code is if you fly another flag higher than the US flag. Flag protocol dictates that if you fly another nation's flag along with the US flag, the flags should be flown at the same height. If someone wants to fly the Mexican flag, or any other, he certainly can; just don't fly it higher than the US flag.
Oh! I had it mostly right. I know a teacher who lost her job for putting up one nations flag, and the US flag as well. She was a social studies teacher who put up the flag of the nation she was teaching about.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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20th October 08, 01:16 PM
#32
I think self confidence comes from within. Maybe a article of clothing helps it along, but in most cases I think you have to be a pretty self confident person to try wearing a kilt.
If anything the start of kilt wearing probably has more of an adverse reaction on people. I have seen so many new members questioning themselves or only wearing their kilt in their home out of fear of what others will think.
Mind you I have also seen many people that start wearing kilts take on more of a "I don't give a rat's behind what you think of me in my kilt" kind of attitude which usually comes across as over confidence, bordering on rudeness in some cases, to hide a lack of self confidence.
You are who you are and should be proud of personality traits and the way people treat each other. Kilts and other things are just accessories to that.
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20th October 08, 04:23 PM
#33
Originally Posted by Highland Logan
The Skull Cap (The Kippah) is an artical of religious clothing and a kilt is not. That is the differerce.
Frank
I don't see the difference. The Kippah (Thanks for that! I'd never heard the name before) is indeed religious, which is just an aspect of the Jewish culture. I grew up in a very Celtic family, where the kilt and tartan are very important parts of our culture. Luckily for me my HR department agrees. I also think she likes men in kilts...
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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20th October 08, 07:23 PM
#34
Originally Posted by BroosterB1
I'll not dwell on the merits of confidence training, I've always thought that those of us who are interested in that sort of thing do it anyway, least ways that's what I've found true from riding a bull, to jumping off perfectly good and supportive cliffs with nothing but a wee tad of rope.
Last night I was in Linens and Things, dragged in by the wife due to the going out of business sale, and I met up with a friend and associate who happens to be the local wig in the SASSA (single action six gun shooting association). This guy is a Marine, a hunter, a re-loader and a military historian. I think his moniker for SASSA is Rancid Roy, so he is not a lightweight by any means. His first reaction to seeing me Kilted was something like "very cool, you wear that well", the second was " I've always know you were crazy...but in a good way" the third was "you've got a bigger set then I do", this from a guy who was a FAC in 'Nam.
The point is he went through several stages very quickly; Admiration (here's a friend wearing a warrior's garb) to rationalization (but he's always been a little off), to justification of his perception of why society allows one person to do something another will not (bigger stones).
None of this had anything to do with my confidence, but rather his perception of me through his frame of reference. My guess is that most people (men) would wear a kilt if they viewed it to be with in their societal comfort zone. And of course, there are those of us who don't care what society thinks, we are going to do what we please as long as it is not illegal, immoral, or too fattening...
Now that's a great example of what I've been saying! It's always been there; you just let it out of it's cage. The kilt is true freedom, in so many ways...
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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21st October 08, 11:24 AM
#35
Originally Posted by Nighthawk
I don't see the difference. The Kippah (Thanks for that! I'd never heard the name before) is indeed religious, which is just an aspect of the Jewish culture. I grew up in a very Celtic family, where the kilt and tartan are very important parts of our culture. Luckily for me my HR department agrees. I also think she likes men in kilts...
Great good for you. However the kilt is and remains the national dress of Scotland, not a artical of religious dress, and is not afforded the same protection of wear, regardless of what you or anyone else feels of believes. So see the differance or not, you can't change the facts.
Frank
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21st October 08, 12:09 PM
#36
Make it religious wear!
Lets see: First Church of the Kilted Kind, Universal Or United Church of Freedom, Kilted Reformed International Brethren of the Kilt; Baptist (insert preferred denomination here) Example Nighthawk would be International Brethren of the Kilt; Druid; I would be International Brethren of the Kilt; Science of Mind/Unversalist; Panache could be International Brethren of the Kilt; Impeccability Dressed and so on!. One of the main tenants would be the wearing of the kilt, at anytime we damn well please! Another could be No Whining! (Wining is another thing altogether). I think we could have fun with this, and get around a lot of proscriptions by being able to say "it's a required article of my faith"
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21st October 08, 12:31 PM
#37
Originally Posted by BroosterB1
Lets see: First Church of the Kilted Kind, Universal Or United Church of Freedom, Kilted Reformed International Brethren of the Kilt; Baptist (insert preferred denomination here) Example Nighthawk would be International Brethren of the Kilt; Druid; I would be International Brethren of the Kilt; Science of Mind/Unversalist; Panache could be International Brethren of the Kilt; Impeccability Dressed and so on!. One of the main tenants would be the wearing of the kilt, at anytime we damn well please! Another could be No Whining! (Wining is another thing altogether). I think we could have fun with this, and get around a lot of proscriptions by being able to say "it's a required article of my faith"
Ahh if only it could be so, But I don't think the rabbi would Approve.......
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21st October 08, 12:47 PM
#38
Nighthawk! You've handled this all wrong.
You should have said, "I appologize, you are correct. I should not have included that artical of clothing in with the African and Latino cultural clothing I listed."
Now you have gone and created a new clothing religion that will probably turn against you at some point!
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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21st October 08, 01:01 PM
#39
Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
Nighthawk! You've handled this all wrong.
You should have said, "I appologize, you are correct. I should not have included that artical of clothing in with the African and Latino cultural clothing I listed."
Now you have gone and created a new clothing religion that will probably turn against you at some point!
To be exact, he was fine with saying awe shucks, I was the one who took the ball and ran it into a competely different stadium.......
"Tis always better to ask for forgivness rather than permission; most times you are assured of the first and denied the latter." Someone whose name I can not recall nor spell.
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21st October 08, 01:30 PM
#40
Originally Posted by Highland Logan
Great good for you. However the kilt is and remains the national dress of Scotland, not a artical of religious dress, and is not afforded the same protection of wear, regardless of what you or anyone else feels of believes. So see the differance or not, you can't change the facts.
Frank
I said:
Originally Posted by Nighthawk
I grew up in a very Celtic family, where the kilt and tartan are very important parts of our culture. Luckily for me my HR department agrees.
Part of our culture. Religion and culture often go hand in hand. It is afforded the same protection as other cultural styles. And that was my point. One culture should not be favored over another.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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