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28th November 08, 09:13 AM
#1
1. you didn't ignore the request, you considered the request with the gravity it deserved, but found that it was in your best interests not to accede to it. A request that can not be denied is an order. Did she order you? Can she order you?
2. while your mother gave her word, she did so without your consent or any discussion with you. She also gave her word on something she has no control over.
3. her actual REAL issue is the fact you don't work at the moment, the kilt just helps her latch onto something.
Good luck to both you and sathor.
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28th November 08, 09:29 AM
#2
I do currently work, just not in the job that I was in prior to moving to FL. Before moving here I work as a full time Paramedic and a part time Police Officer. I was told many times that these were no where jobs, and I would never be able to take care of my family doing them. I was working 72hrs a week as a Medic and at least 16hrs a week as a Police Officer. I moved to FL because I was under the thought I could do the jobs I loved and make a better life for my family. However I am still trying, but I have been working since we moved here, mostly for Spencer Gifts as a Sales Supervisor where I make the same as I did as a Paramedic in IL but with more benifits. I am trying to get back into EMS or as a Police Officer, however I am sure some of you are aware they do not pass out these jobs like candy. My wife (Scottish Mommy) works at Target and has also been trying to get on the Ambulance Service as she is an EMT, she also has tried to get another part time job just as I, but we all know how great the job market is. I just wish that some day some of my family would step back and judge themselves before they judge others. To them everyone I choose to be friends with are "weird" , "Strange", or my favorite "one of those people", still not sure what the blue h*** that one means. Hope you all had a great turkey day, other than the BS with the family the meal was good, I did get looked at strange because I had sushi with my turkey, hey they picked the buffet not me.
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28th November 08, 10:27 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by celtic cowboy
I do currently work, just not in the job that I was in prior to moving to FL. Before moving here I work as a full time Paramedic and a part time Police Officer. I was told many times that these were no where jobs, and I would never be able to take care of my family doing them. I was working 72hrs a week as a Medic and at least 16hrs a week as a Police Officer. I moved to FL because I was under the thought I could do the jobs I loved and make a better life for my family. However I am still trying, but I have been working since we moved here, mostly for Spencer Gifts as a Sales Supervisor where I make the same as I did as a Paramedic in IL but with more benifits. I am trying to get back into EMS or as a Police Officer, however I am sure some of you are aware they do not pass out these jobs like candy. My wife (Scottish Mommy) works at Target and has also been trying to get on the Ambulance Service as she is an EMT, she also has tried to get another part time job just as I, but we all know how great the job market is. I just wish that some day some of my family would step back and judge themselves before they judge others. To them everyone I choose to be friends with are "weird" , "Strange", or my favorite "one of those people", still not sure what the blue h*** that one means. Hope you all had a great turkey day, other than the BS with the family the meal was good, I did get looked at strange because I had sushi with my turkey, hey they picked the buffet not me.
...wait... The family get's down on you for working as a police officer? Are they serious?!?! If it weren't for you, my children would be dead 10 years ago. Words can't express the disgust I now have for your "family." I'm sorry to sound harsh, but you are a hero, weather you just handed out traffic tickets or worked on a SWAT team. You put your life on the line for a pregnant woman and a little girl that you didn't know, nor would ever see again, and just because it was your job. My 12 year old daughter and my 10 year old son and I thank you from the bottoms of our hearts. How sickening that someone would actually get down on you for doing those kinds of things... and how sad that the pay and benefits are better working for Spencer's.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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28th November 08, 10:47 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
and how sad that the pay and benefits are better working for Spencer's.
I was just thinking the same thing! That is insane! These guys put their lives on the line, day after day, and they don't make more than retail wage?!?!? Ok, something is really wrong in this world!
Then again, I work in a technically demanding field and make retail wages...
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28th November 08, 11:06 AM
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It does make me sad, I tried to tell my family it is not about the pay. But they never could understand. I made $7 an hr working as a Police officer and $9 and hr as a paramedic, but I think if I made a million $'s they would still find a problem with it. That is just the way they are. No matter the roads I chose to travel in life they will allways think I should go their way not my own. I chose to take a year away from public service when we moved here due to the fact I was getting a little burned out, 14yrs in EMS does that to you. One of my last calls before moving was the loss of a baby, I have delt with this many times before but this time it hit me hard. I saw myself getting to be cold with people, and I was not sure if it was right for me anymore. A couple of weeks ago I was out to lunch with my Mother and son when a elderly woman behind us began to have some serious medical issues, I did not think twice about helping her and explaing to her husband what was going on and that we needed to call an ambulace for her. I felt better than I have in some time, so this was my sign, it's time to get back to giving to people what I love, help. I know this now, that helping people is what I was ment to do. If my family never uderstands, so be it. I have seen alot of bad things happen to good people, and been the one they called to help them, sometimes I could, and somtimes I had to give them bad news, but I can always say good or bad at least I was there to try. Well enough of this , I hope to be back in the seat soon. Thanks for the ear, any of you ever need to vent I am here.
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29th November 08, 01:30 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by celtic cowboy
It does make me sad, I tried to tell my family it is not about the pay. But they never could understand. I made $7 an hr working as a Police officer and $9 and hr as a paramedic, but I think if I made a million $'s they would still find a problem with it. That is just the way they are. No matter the roads I chose to travel in life they will allways think I should go their way not my own. I chose to take a year away from public service when we moved here due to the fact I was getting a little burned out, 14yrs in EMS does that to you. One of my last calls before moving was the loss of a baby, I have delt with this many times before but this time it hit me hard. I saw myself getting to be cold with people, and I was not sure if it was right for me anymore. A couple of weeks ago I was out to lunch with my Mother and son when a elderly woman behind us began to have some serious medical issues, I did not think twice about helping her and explaing to her husband what was going on and that we needed to call an ambulace for her. I felt better than I have in some time, so this was my sign, it's time to get back to giving to people what I love, help. I know this now, that helping people is what I was ment to do. If my family never uderstands, so be it. I have seen alot of bad things happen to good people, and been the one they called to help them, sometimes I could, and somtimes I had to give them bad news, but I can always say good or bad at least I was there to try. Well enough of this , I hope to be back in the seat soon. Thanks for the ear, any of you ever need to vent I am here.
Kudos to you.
I loved the photo of you, your wife and son. Like many others here I think you all looked great.
I also applaud your choice to walk your own path in the matter of the family meal.
I also appreciate beyond words your service to the people around you as a police office and EMT. I hope that you both are soon able to take you the jobs you desire.
Having said that I hope never to need your services!
Bravo!
Mark
Tetley
The Traveller
What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it. - Lazarus Long
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29th November 08, 04:14 PM
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I haven't been keeping up on this, but now I've had the time to catch up.
What a shame that our very own family can often be our biggest headaches!
One of the best things I did was move 1400 miles away from my family. It was also one of the hardest things to do. I visit often as I can, but everytime I do, I'm somewhat thankful that I do live a ways away.
I would hope that our parents would love us unconditionally. That's pretty much a given. But also to accept us for who we are.
Good on those who make a decision and go with it. Right or wrong, at least they're willing to take a chance to be happy with who they are, and live with the consequences.
My parents/family learned a long time ago that if they would like to continue to have me and my wife in their lives, they have to accept us for who we are.
A friend of mine made a comment years ago that still sticks with me today: "I choose to surround myself with people who I want to be around"
I don't understand why someone would want to spend time around people who aren't very nice to us. Family or no.
Of course, we should try and make an effort to at least get along with our own family. To a point.
Thunderbolt
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2nd December 08, 11:01 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by celtic cowboy
It does make me sad, I tried to tell my family it is not about the pay. But they never could understand. I made $7 an hr working as a Police officer and $9 and hr as a paramedic, but I think if I made a million $'s they would still find a problem with it. That is just the way they are. No matter the roads I chose to travel in life they will allways think I should go their way not my own. I chose to take a year away from public service when we moved here due to the fact I was getting a little burned out, 14yrs in EMS does that to you. One of my last calls before moving was the loss of a baby, I have delt with this many times before but this time it hit me hard. I saw myself getting to be cold with people, and I was not sure if it was right for me anymore. A couple of weeks ago I was out to lunch with my Mother and son when a elderly woman behind us began to have some serious medical issues, I did not think twice about helping her and explaing to her husband what was going on and that we needed to call an ambulace for her. I felt better than I have in some time, so this was my sign, it's time to get back to giving to people what I love, help. I know this now, that helping people is what I was ment to do. If my family never uderstands, so be it. I have seen alot of bad things happen to good people, and been the one they called to help them, sometimes I could, and somtimes I had to give them bad news, but I can always say good or bad at least I was there to try. Well enough of this , I hope to be back in the seat soon. Thanks for the ear, any of you ever need to vent I am here.
My friend you are not the black sheep in your family but the White among the black, you show that with your words and actions.
Keep up the good work.
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28th November 08, 01:03 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Downix
I was just thinking the same thing! That is insane! These guys put their lives on the line, day after day, and they don't make more than retail wage?!?!? Ok, something is really wrong in this world!
Then again, I work in a technically demanding field and make retail wages...
My sister-in-law works for the local 911 dispatch, and makes more than my teacher wife and many of the local cops, and she hasn't been there a year yet. (with an associates degree)
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