Black Tie means a bow tie not a black coloured tie

[thescot]

Well, I wonder how Courtmount really feels about all this.

Actually, I agree--for the most part. It is my understanding that a long, black four-in-hand is perfectly acceptable for black tie affairs . . . but I've never actually anyone wearing such. Nor would I do so.

The point of black tie is to be plain, non-showy, tasteful. Adding bling, red cumberbunds, etc. certainly detract from the plainness of the ensemble. Unless one is kilted. Then all bets are off. The Scottish traditions dictate in that case--silver mounts and fur sporrans are not really considered bling!

But, like my firend Courtmount, I much prefer the traditional.

Watching the knuckleheads at the Oscars is sufficient cause to question the future of our civilization. Why anyone would care what one of those overpaid nitwits does or thinks is well beyond me.

[Spc. Scott]

Watching the knuckleheads at the Oscars is sufficient cause to question the future of our civilization. Why anyone would care what one of those overpaid nitwits does or thinks is well beyond me.

It is too bad that it seems a good portion of the general public does care and will emulate what they see.