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                                                3rd June 09, 12:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Very amusing....thanks for writing it and sharing
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by davedove   I Was Kilted When Kilted Wasn't Cool(with apologies to Barbara Mandrell)
 
 I remember wearin' full mask sporrans and hand-knit hose
 Even when they weren't in style
 I remember talkin’ about clans and tartan
 And wearing my Argyle
 And I was wearin’ clothes up to my waist
 When all of my friends were wearin’ their pants down to their butts
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 I was Kilted, with my flashes and sgian dubh
 I still act, and look the same
 What you see ain't nothin' new
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 
 I remember drivin' to the market, getting’ out
 And people would all watch
 I remember when no one was lookin'
 I was nibblin' haggis with my Scotch
 I took a lot of kiddin'
 'Cause I never did fit in
 Now look at everybody tryin' to be what I was then
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 I was Kilted, with my flashes and sgian dubh
 I still act, and look the same
 What you see ain't nothin' new
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 
 They call us highland rebels
 For stickin' to our roots
 I'm just glad we're in a country
 Where we're all free to choose
 I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 Yeah, I was Kilted, when Kilted wasn't cool
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 12:51 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			A Matter of Definition
		
			
				
					
	You've covered a lot of territory with your post, and before I respond I thought I'd ask you to tell us what the Puritans believed, and how those beliefs have influenced modern day US attitudes.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Nighthawk    The biggest problem, here in the States, is that we live in a society that is still very much influenced by the Puritans. 
 Thanks.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 12:54 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown   You've covered a lot of territory with your post, and before I respond I thought I'd ask you to tell us what the Puritans believed, and how those beliefs have influenced modern day US attitudes.
 Thanks.
 Uh oh. Are you really Dr. Hathaway my World Religion proffessor?
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 12:57 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Dan R Porter   Uh oh. Are you really Dr. Hathaway my World Religion proffessor?    
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 01:00 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Nope.  But I really do have problems with sweeping polemical statements.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dan R Porter   Uh oh. Are you really Dr. Hathaway my World Religion proffessor?  
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 01:03 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			hmmm
		
			
				
					Isn't wearing a kilt, against the norm, polemical in itself?
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 01:10 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Nope.  Wearing a kilt isn't argumentative. It's stylish.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dan R Porter   Isn't wearing a kilt, against the norm, polemical in itself?   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 01:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Tell my wife that please.  
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 02:08 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think its really easy to blame the Puritans (whose society died out a long time ago) for the state of our society in the US.  Especially since the limiting factor of mainstream kilt acceptance seems to be generational.  People in my age group (20's) have a very different reaction to my kilt than older ones.
 It's still weird, because it seems to happen every generation too.  People today are talking about gay marriage as the "2nd" sexual revolution (the "first" being in the 60s).  But a theological writer (CS Lewis) wrote about the sexual revolution in the 40's and compared it to the one in the 20's.
 
 Not that going kilted is a sexual revolution.  There just seems to be counter-culture at every generation.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd June 09, 02:16 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Not to mention that the Puritan influence was really felt the strongest in New England, and even then really only in Massachusetts. By the early 1700s, the Puritan era was coming to a close in New England as more non-Puritans began moving in, although there always has been a residue of Puritanism under the surface.
		
			
			
				I think its really easy to blame the Puritans (whose society died out a long time ago) for the state of our society in the US.
			
		 
 As Rathdown hinted at, the term Puritan really only applies to English Congregationalist who sought to "purify" the Church of England. We tend today to use the term to describe many denominations and beliefs, but believe me a Puritan would take offence at being lumped in with other groups.
 
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