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18th July 09, 03:55 PM
#11
Panache with Moderator Hat off
Sandford,
You have my great respect for offering this apology.
You have a wealth of information and experience regarding highland attire that you bring to X Marks the Scot.com. I'm always interested in your posts and very much enjoy the one's where you give us classic options for the well dressed gentleman.
Often you and I have been the ones to cross swords over white hose and such, but I have always respected your viewpoint because I know the great sense of pride and care with which you wear highland dress. The only issues I have ever had with you (as had others) is the way you sometimes express them.
How could we all not respect someone who keeps such marvelous aspects of this wonderful attire alive like bespoke tartan doublets amongst a sea of Prince Charlie coatees?
In your own way you are just as bold and individualistic as, say, Raphael is when he dons his leather contemporary kilt.
He knows he looks good, is right, and knows what he is wearing sums up who he is.
He is true to himself and wears his kilt with great confidence.
I put you in the same boat. All gentlemen should walk as proud.
Here on XMTS and we would be lessened without Raphael as we would be without you.
There is a lot of room here on this forum, as long as there is respect for one another.
I look forward to further spirited (though perhaps less strident ) debate with you in the future
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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18th July 09, 04:07 PM
#12
Originally Posted by Big Mikey
DISCLAIMER- The following is just one, fat, old mans opinion.
It has been an observation of mine that quite often a man will judge himself more harshly than those around him will. If he feels that he MAY have wronged another and makes an attempt to redeem himself, his quality as a gentleman is greatly elevated.
What he said! I am learning to try and recognize my errors and correct them as quickly as I can. I think it is part of being a well rounded person.
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18th July 09, 04:48 PM
#13
Dear Sandford,
I for one have entirely enjoyed your photos, and have learned from them. I certainly had not attributed any motive to their posting than our shared enjoyment of Highland dress. I could always be wrong (naturally) but I have not detected any hints of such a perception around the place. BTW I love, love, love your tartan doublet.
In the recent discussion, I think it was the single word that was a problem. It's difficult to tell, with the resources at hand, whether you were smiling when you said it. ;) I have been dealing with online fora for about 26 years now---this was a problem in the beginning, is a problem now, and probably ever shall be! For whatever it's worth, I do try to think three times before I click the submit button.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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18th July 09, 05:34 PM
#14
A man must have very eminent qualities to hold his own without being polite.
- Jean de la Bruyere
A proud Great-Great Grandson of the Clan MacLellan from Kirkcudbright.
"Think On!"
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18th July 09, 05:54 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Big Mikey
DISCLAIMER- The following is just one, fat, old mans opinion.
It has been an observation of mine that quite often a man will judge himself more harshly than those around him will. If he feels that he MAY have wronged another and makes an attempt to redeem himself, his quality as a gentleman is greatly elevated.
It must be clear to you from the responses to this thread that support for you on this forum is deep and strong. Of course we should strive to keep the discourse on the forum civil, but the loss would be great if you withheld your opinions or your photos. I for one would regret any such "chilling effect". I probably do not know all of the posts or exchanges that have caused you to feel these actions to be necessary, but I suspect that amends can be made without the need for such drastic measures...thank you for your participation herein, and please do carry on....Regards
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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18th July 09, 08:04 PM
#16
You have my apologies in return for allowing you to be that lightning rod. I think it is clear from the posts above that you are not alone and have the support of many on this forum; whether they agree with your opinions or not. Like many others here, my horizons have been broadened by your contributions and I thank you for them.
"O, why the deuce should I repine, and be an ill foreboder?
I'm twenty-three, and five feet nine, I'll go and be a sodger!
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18th July 09, 09:42 PM
#17
Your agology shoes that you care deeply about others others and this board. I, however, thin that an apology is unneccesary. If we all had the same thoughts, ideas and opinions, this forum would not be needed. Please continue to tell me what you think!
Scott D McKay
* The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits *
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19th July 09, 02:43 AM
#18
Dear Sandford, cher ami.
Introspection is always a good thing, and you can only be congratulated for it. This is also a sign of elegance.
Nevertheless, do not fall into excessive mortification. I would simply like to express how much it is important for people like me who do not master the English language to have gentlemen like you to carry out the ideals of style and good taste in a way that would be demanding for us .
I would also like to take this opportunity to thank all you ladies and gentlemen for often being our "porte paroles".
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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19th July 09, 09:47 AM
#19
As somebody who, today, has returned after a year off the forums, also having been censured (for bringing the politics of the kilt forward), may I, too, say that it takes more than a little bravery to make threads like this.
I look forward to reading your posts.
From another passionate Scot!
Regards
Bruce (Fraser)
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