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    I love glengarries! Especially since I am an Armiger and wear one eagle feather. The stiffness of the bonnet lends itself well to keeping the feather securely in place, more so than the balmoral. I also like to wear my glengarry in the plain black or navy with either matching touries or in red. I make sure to follow military regs and iron the ribbon tails flat and wear it straight and low on my head-I find it looks better this way, rather than it cocked like the regiments used to wear it-though that isn't that bad looking at all-espcially if you have a lot of hair underneath your glengarry! I also like to wear white heather, the plant badge of the Clan Macpherson with my glengarry as well-typically in front of my eagle feather-very tradtional and correct. A more detailed photo is forthcoming, yet the one below shows a snippet!


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    Quote Originally Posted by creagdhubh View Post
    I love glengarries! Especially since I am an Armiger and wear one eagle feather. The stiffness of the bonnet lends itself well to keeping the feather securely in place, more so than the balmoral. I also like to wear my glengarry in the plain black or navy with either matching touries or in red. I make sure to follow military regs and iron the ribbon tails flat and wear it straight and low on my head-I find it looks better this way, rather than it cocked like the regiments used to wear it-though that isn't that bad looking at all-espcially if you have a lot of hair underneath your glengarry! I also like to wear white heather, the plant badge of the Clan Macpherson with my glengarry as well-typically in front of my eagle feather-very tradtional and correct. A more detailed photo is forthcoming, yet the one below shows a snippet!

    That looks like the Scottish Arms!

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    Did you notice the Watch piper and SG pipers wearing glengarries instead of the more recent feather bonnets ? I wonder what year they changed over for full-dress purposes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan09 View Post
    Did you notice the Watch piper and SG pipers wearing glengarries instead of the more recent feather bonnets ? I wonder what year they changed over for full-dress purposes ?
    If I recall correctly, the Scots Guards pipers adopted the feather bonnet in 1928.

    About that Black Watch piper, remember that that photo was taken on active duty in India and he is not wearing Full Dress. Look at his jacket: the Service Dress jacket of the time, not the Full Dress doublet.
    Black Watch pipers, as far as I know, have always worn feather bonnets in Full Dress ever since that headgear evolved.

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    Non-pipers, non-military

    Richard...I hope I'm not steering your thread OT here...I think this question fits here versus starting yet another thread about Glengarries...

    When I first started considering buying a Glen or Balmoral, I posted a question...and the resounding advice was that Glens are reserved for military purposes and pipers. Civilians should wear a Balmoral. In looking through the many historical images posted on this forum recently, including this one, it would appear that Glengarry hats were worn by all starting at some point in the 1800s thru the present day. Is the Glengarry=Piper/Soldier a modern stigma?
    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine

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    About where the Glengarry came from, this is what the section on the dress of the pipers of the 79th Highlanders in the Queen's Own Highlanders book says:

    "In the early years of the Regiment the dress of the pipers corresponded to that of the rank and file... but in 1841 Lieutenant Colonel Lauderdale Maule introduced green doublets for pipers, the first time in any Highland Regiment. He is also credited with devising the Glengarry cap..."

    However there is a lovely painting of (civilian) piper Angus MacKay painted in 1837 which clearly shows a Glengarry being worn.

    It seems that both the doublet and Glengarry first appeared in civilian Highland dress, perhaps in the 1800-1830 period, then were adopted by the 79th Foot (Cameron Highlanders) for its pipers in 1841, then later spread to the pipers in other Highland regiments.

    In 1855 doublets were adopted for all ranks of all Highland regiments.

    In The Highlanders of Scotland it can be seen that the Glengarry was a very popular form of headdress amongst civilians. Of the 56 kilted figures, 25 are wearing plain Glengarries, 22 plain Balmorals, and 3 diced Balmorals. Only three of the 56 men are in military uniform. Note that none of the Glengarries are diced. The Glengarries worn by the pipers of all the Highland regiments, and the Glengarries worn by all ranks of the Black Watch and Cameron Highlanders, were plain. Diced Glengarries were worn only by the non-pipers of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (red/white diced) and Gordon Highlanders and Seaforth Highlanders (red/white/green diced).

    So plain Glengarries have always been popular amongst civilians and the notion that civilians shouldn't wear them is modern. But diced Glengarries do indeed look military.
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