Time for a New York State tartan?

**Woodsheal** · 27th April 10, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Brian K

For those who thought a darker grey might be a better choice:

There's a darker shade, but I think it would really be too dark then.

This actually looks closer to the Scotweb version....

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 09:44 AM

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**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by paulhenry

I thought by using the Scotweb designer, and by saving your design, that was enough to confirm the terms of using it and thereby accepting the terms and conditions, and all the restrictions that come with it.If you now use a different tartan designer with a previous design, I don't see that you wouldn't still fall under the conditions of Scotweb.In any case by posting it on here everyone knows that you have used the Scotweb software.
Please correct me if I am wrong

I could be wrong, Paul, but the revisions are not exactly the same as the original. Very similar of course, but the thread counts have been modified and that is really what a sett is. If I am wrong then I would completely withdraw my design from consideration and someone else can do it as I like Nick a great deal and would never want to be involved in any sort of legal struggle with him at all. Indeed, even if I'm correct, yet I still have offended Nick then I wouldn't want my design put forward. I have never had any business relationships with him and all our contacts have been very cordial and I want them to stay that way.

Regards,

Brian

PS - maybe I've let my enthusiasm outrun my good sense and I should just bag this design and start over altogether or have someone else come up with one...*sigh*

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 10:46 AM

I've e-mailed Nick so he can see what's been going on. He may have a better solution than starting from scratch or giving up altogether. I feel he's a reasonable man and I will honor his feelings in the matter.

**Woodsheal** · 27th April 10, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Brian K

LOL, Brian, maybe I SHOULD try the darker grey then! So, here goes:

No, this grey is too dark. The appearance of the Scotweb version - which seems to more accurately simulate fabric - is the best so far! Your second one using the alternate generator more closely resembles it...

**csbdr** · 27th April 10, 11:25 AM

Made a nice background for my computer, at the very least. Hope this moves forward! I'm trying to think of any contacts I may have. Just another wrinkle...but "if" Nick owns the original version now, do any of us have the 'right" to be passing it around to other organiztions at all? Just thinking....

**Galician** · 27th April 10, 12:17 PM

I don't want to be a killjoy, but I did post in the original thread my experience with trying to get the NYC tartan made official. The NYS legislature is even more notoriously contentious (and non-productive?). Once a tartan HAS been agreed upon, just be aware that it will be a very big task to get it approved, perhaps unless you have the backing of groups like Scottish societies all around the state.

P.S. I was advised in the process that, since Locharran is the copywrite(?) owner of the NYC tartan, I needed their written authorization for the process to proceed. I was able to get that without problem, and I assume that Nick would be equally cooperative. Just know to have it in black and white, should that issue arise with this one.

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by csbdr

Made a nice background for my computer, at the very least. Hope this moves forward! I'm trying to think of any contacts I may have. Just another wrinkle...but "if" Nick owns the original version now, do any of us have the 'right" to be passing it around to other organiztions at all? Just thinking....

Glad you like it. It probably won't hurt to feel people who might help out a bit but sharing the design outside the forum right now is probably not a good idea. Whether we go forward with this, or another, design, we'll want to make sure people are primed to help.

**Brian K** · 27th April 10, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Galician

I don't want to be a killjoy, but I did post in the original thread my experience with trying to get the NYC tartan made official. The NYS legislature is even more notoriously contentious (and non-productive?). Once a tartan HAS been agreed upon, just be aware that it will be a very big task to get it approved, perhaps unless you have the backing of groups like Scottish societies all around the state.

P.S. I was advised in the process that, since Locharran is the copywrite(?) owner of the NYC tartan, I needed their written authorization for the process to proceed. I was able to get that without problem, and I assume that Nick would be equally cooperative. Just know to have it in black and white, should that issue arise with this one.

In the original thread Jamie Mungall mentioned that people complained when the Louisiana legislature approved their tartan because they thought it was frivolous. He explained that a lot of frivolous stuff gets done in sessions because most of the real; work is done in committee, so feel-good items appeal to the legislators.

The situation in the NY legislature is so fractious right now that a feel-good, non-partisan, non-political measure might stand a better chance than something more serious.

Who we approach and how we sell it can also make a big difference.

Stay tuned for further developments!

Regards,

Brian