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                                                11th February 11, 10:02 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Another interesting kilt
		
			
				
					It's been quite a week. Came across this one yesterday.
 
  
 Interesting shaping at the top.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 10:13 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					What interests me is the pleating.  Barbara had suggested such a pleating for my MacBean kilt, but I thought it would be too much red.
 What is that on the top anyway?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 10:45 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Looks like a repair (like someone cut away a portion that was damaged)???  Are you thinking it was done like this on purpose?
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 11:48 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Quite strange, in the photo it looks as though the missing piece has been folded under then stitched as there is a shadowing matching the missing piece.
				 How do you disperse an angry Scottish mob?Nae bother - just take up a collection.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 11:57 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It doesn't look like the top was cut away, rather folded under.  I can make out the crease line where the cloth has been folded back.  I'm guessing it might have been an adjustment for someone with a narrow waist.
 I can't tell from the photo, Peter, is this knife pleated or narrow box pleats?  Do you know the amount of cloth used, and approximate age of the kilt?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 12:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Pleated to the horizontal bar-NICE!!!
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 12:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I don't think that the leather strap is original and so it, and the altered apron, may have been a later amendment.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome   It doesn't look like the top was cut away, rather folded under.  I can make out the crease line where the cloth has been folded back.  I'm guessing it might have been an adjustment for someone with a narrow waist.
 I can't tell from the photo, Peter, is this knife pleated or narrow box pleats?  Do you know the amount of cloth used, and approximate age of the kilt?
 
 It's what Bob Martin would call a box-knife in that the box is of an uneven depth more like a series of flattened fish hooks with each box lying on the shaft of the previous. 21 pleats. I can't remember the amount of loth but I'd guess about 5 yds. It's in the STA collection so I can check. As to age, well, the cloth is Wilsons' c1830-40 and if pushed I'd say the kilt was toward the latter end so 1840-45ish.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 01:36 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Another great find Peter. You said that it was in the STA collection. Does this mean that the STA has "undiscovered" items in storage just waiting for someone to get to them, such as your good self or was this a recent aquisition?
				 Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 01:55 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Boxes of 'undiscovered' stuff. I had my hands on several early C18th fragments yesterday which really made my day.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt   Another great find Peter. You said that it was in the STA collection. Does this mean that the STA has "undiscovered" items in storage just waiting for someone to get to them, such as your good self or was this a recent aquisition? 
 Oh, and on Thursday I looked at another collection and found a number of early Wilsons' pieces including a Regency jacket and a Gordon (red/old) plaid made from their Old Superfine cloth c1780. It's been quite a week.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th February 11, 03:30 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Nice.  Is this the WOB sett that the Carolina tartan was based on?  The Dalgliesh "WOB colors" used in our custom run look to be a close match, as well.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by figheadair   
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