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31st August 11, 02:30 PM
#1
Actually, Jacobites did wear the kilt during the 1745 rebellion. Of course, it wasn't the modern kilt we know today with pressed pleats, lining, etc., but it was a philabeg with hand pleats -- basically a single-width piece of tartan rather than the two-single-widths-sewn-together-to-make-double-width-style of the so-called great kilt.
I had luck with finding a nice 100% worsted wool at our local fabric store (the regionally well-known Mary Jo's). It's muted browns with a little blue with a red and yellow-brown stripe -- big sett too, perfect for that middle-class Jacobite look.
This one is only 80% wool, but I like the look --
http://www.trimfabric.com/wl-263.html
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31st August 11, 03:13 PM
#2
That fabric's a nice find, Matt. Here's another cheap tartan in 100% wool:
http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ca...spx?ItmID=2995
I bought some of the latter, and it's quite nice (don't know what shipping would be to Inverness, though! )....
The "little kilt" was indeed quite prevalent by the time of the '45, but how they were configured is unknown. Drawstring? Hand pleated each time (doubtful)? Pleats tacked in place at the top? We just don't know, as no philabegs from that early have survived....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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1st September 11, 04:29 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
That fabric's a nice find, Matt. Here's another cheap tartan in 100% wool:
http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ca...spx?ItmID=2995
I bought some of the latter, and it's quite nice (don't know what shipping would be to Inverness, though!  )....
The "little kilt" was indeed quite prevalent by the time of the '45, but how they were configured is unknown. Drawstring? Hand pleated each time (doubtful)? Pleats tacked in place at the top? We just don't know, as no philabegs from that early have survived....
Thats a nice cloth! it looks alot like the weatherd hunting McLean, a tartan i was thinking about getting. So do you think it would be better to go for a worsted heavy weight wool rather than a run of the mill cloth.
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31st August 11, 08:55 PM
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Not sure if your wanting to make your own or buy one? but these guys did a pretty good job on mine. Just email them for fabric colors...
http://www.just2tailors.com/index1.p...labeg/Wee_kilt
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31st August 11, 10:07 PM
#5
Woodsheal- I did a little more research and found that you are right about the annular brooches. I found a lovely one at a Highland Games a week ago. I'll post pictures eventually... Thanks for pushing me to research those a little more!
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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1st September 11, 07:15 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
Woodsheal- I did a little more research and found that you are right about the annular brooches. I found a lovely one at a Highland Games a week ago. I'll post pictures eventually... Thanks for pushing me to research those a little more! 
My pleasure. The minute research is fun, but you can also drive yourself foaming mad over time...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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4th September 11, 10:11 PM
#7
I read this rhread from start to finish and I'm curious as to wether any Lowlanders fought in the uprisings, and if so, what did they wear since they probably would not have worn a kilt. Or would they?
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5th September 11, 04:17 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by LANCER1562
I read this rhread from start to finish and I'm curious as to wether any Lowlanders fought in the uprisings, and if so, what did they wear since they probably would not have worn a kilt. Or would they?
There were plenty of lowland Jacobites, as well as English ones. About a quarter of the Jacobite troops during the '45 were lowlanders, the Edinburgh Regiment (John Roy Stuart's) being an example unit.
Lowlanders did not wear highland dress, but there was still a distinct 'Scottishness' about them. The knitted 'Scots bonnet' was as popular in the Lowlands, and lowlanders also utilized plaids when travelling or engaged in other outdoor pursuits (though not worn belted/kilted)....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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7th September 11, 07:56 AM
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I was watching Rob Rob for the millionth time and im sure he's not wearing a great kilt! its looks like its in 2 maybe even 3 parts. With the kilt being worn at the bottom and some cloth tucked into the back and side then pined on to the shoulder. This is something im planning on doing in the future but should i just use a fly plaid for the top part?
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7th September 11, 09:57 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by The Bear
I was watching Rob Rob for the millionth time and im sure he's not wearing a great kilt! its looks like its in 2 maybe even 3 parts. With the kilt being worn at the bottom and some cloth tucked into the back and side then pined on to the shoulder. This is something im planning on doing in the future but should i just use a fly plaid for the top part?
When little kilts came into common usage, plaids were still worn - or 'carried' might be a more accurate term. For example:

I'm pretty sure such plaids were somewhat larger than today's 'fly plaids'....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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