Hats?

**BoldHighlander** · 26th October 08, 05:54 PM

Ted, do you still have all those links I posted to one of your threads for Newsboys & Flat Caps?
Can you post them here?

**Bugbear** · 26th October 08, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

Ted, do you still have all those links I posted to one of your threads for Newsboys & Flat Caps?
Can you post them here?

These are some links to flat caps that BoldHighlander provided in one of my threads.

Ivy Cap

(Cavanagh) Flat Cap
Irish Flat Cap
(brown or gray tweeds)

Here's several more hat links I've collected:

Riverkilt's thread "Great Hat Source" with Links to hats

Russet Lodge Custom Knits

The Scottish Tartans Museum's bonnets

BIG HEAD CAPS "Big hats for Big heads-EXTRA LARGE SIZED ONLY"

Thread with Hat Paterns

I do have others, but I will have to look around for them.

**Derek Conley** · 26th October 08, 11:49 PM

Perhaps one of you gents can help me out here and clarify...

Would this Barnton cap be essentially the same as an "Ivy" cap?

I'm trying to learn all the differences and I'd like to get the "Barnton cap" in USMC Leatherneck tartan. I'm sure I'll order it anyways but I'm just trying to learn if "Ivy" and "Barnton" are all the same thing!

**Chase** · 27th October 08, 01:50 AM

Is there a thread on favorite hats/caps or can we start one?

**BoldHighlander** · 27th October 08, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Derek Conley

Perhaps one of you gents can help me out here and clarify...

Would this Barnton cap be essentially the same as an "Ivy" cap?

Hi Derek -- in my opinion I'd say "yes"
It's a "flat cap" (another variation of the name).

**BoldHighlander** · 27th October 08, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

These are some links to flat caps that BoldHighlander provided in one of my threads.

I do have others, but I will have to look around for them.

Thanks Ted!

Originally Posted by Chase

Is there a thread on favorite hats/caps or can we start one?

Hi Chase -- I know there are other threads about hats out there, here's one that I started recently regarding Winter Hats where some of the rabble have posted pictures.

Not sure if there's a thread devoted to favorite hats however
Good question... (mine is an 8-panel Newsboy of brownish Pendleton herringbone-tweed ).

**Chase** · 27th October 08, 04:04 AM

Thanks Terry, I'll check it out

**Jock Scot** · 27th October 08, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Casey_in_Carolina

First off, I think you, and the others, are correct, I think it's a newsboy cap. I just couldn't think of that when I made my original post, all I could think of was paperboy, and I knew that wasn't right

I also had no idea that the style of hat, newsboy or flatcap, wouldn't be worn with a kilt in Scotland. Why is that? Is the Glengarry or Balmoral so much more popular that you just wouldn't see it, or is there some prejudice against the flatcap, or what?

I really love my newsboy, and have just about worn it out. It was a gift from friend of the family years and years ago, so I guess I'll have to go on a hunt to find a replacement. I'll also have to look and see if I can find it in different patterns or colors or solids.

Thanks for all of the input guys.

Casey

PS - just checked, and it is an eight panel Newsboy from the "Stanley-Evans Custom Collection", or so sayeth the label

It's made in the US and has a brown liner which could be silk or polyester made to look liek silk, that has the trademarked name "Pendleton" embroidered in it in several places.

For some reason,that I don't know, flat caps have not been worn with the kilt in Scotland, since about 1914.There is plenty of photographic evidence of tweed caps being worn with the kilt before then. It is now never seen as kilt attire here. Usually we go bare headed when wearing the kilt, the occasional balmoral is seen and apart from pipe bands, members of the tartan army and visitors, the glengarry is almost never seen as civilian wear,nor is,I am glad to say, the John Deere type hat. If the weather is too bad most kilt wearers(rare anyway)will wear a "fore and aft".

**Derek Conley** · 27th October 08, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

Hi Derek -- in my opinion I'd say "yes"
It's a "flat cap" (another variation of the name).

I appreciate the confirmation; I kept looking at them both and determined (to my untrained eye) that they looked... well... the same. I just wanted to make sure!

Unfortunately, the company to which I posted a link in my original post does not offer that cap in the "Leatherneck" tartan... so I'll have to search elsewhere.

This brings me to another question: is it "too much" to wear a flat cap with the same tartan as your kilt... or is it best to go with a more complimentary-colored cap?

**Jock Scot** · 27th October 08, 06:59 AM

I think one can overdo the tartan bit and in my humble opinion a cap(if you must) in tartan is overdoing it, when worn with the kilt. The other thing to watch out for, is mixing tartans. Now wearing a clan tartan kilt and a bonnet of a different tartan,but of the same clan would be OK. But wearing tartans of different clans would not be courtious to either clan and in some cases, will cause offence.