Why no belt with PC / Vest?

[Ayin McFye]

The way I understand it, and I could be wrong, is one waist-item only. So one of a) belt, b) cummerbund, or c) waistcoat. Adding more than one, and certainly all three, would just look ridiculous.

I think that is nicely stated and makes sense. Thanks!

[Panache]

I think that is nicely stated and makes sense. Thanks!

Ayin,

Also remember in a martini

It is either 1 olive or 2 cocktail onions!



Cheers

Jamie

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I just don't think you can, in any visual way, compare a PC to a tuxedo. It is just worn at that level of formality, so using the conventions of a tuxedo really do not translate to the Prince Charlie.

I've given up trying to understand that; though I do think the PC is very good looking, and have nothing against it.

Sadly, my gut feeling says that other kinds of black jackets with a kilt would feel more at home when alone in a room packed with tuxedos.. I try to ignore that gut feeling.

Actually, a Prince Charlie jacket is basically the Highland Dress equivalent of a tuxedo jacket.

Tux:


Prince Charlie:

[svc40bt]

Now my thought was that an Argyle with the metal buttons was the equivalent of a tuxedo (dinner) jacket, while a Prince Charlie was the equivalent of a tailcoat. Either could be worn for black tie, but only the Prince Charlie (or a doublet) for white tie.

Three button waistcoat and bowtie for black or white tie (in the appropriate color of course), five button with a regular 'four-in-hand' tie.

[Bugbear]

Now my thought was that an Argyle with the metal buttons was the equivalent of a tuxedo (dinner) jacket, while a Prince Charlie was the equivalent of a tailcoat. Either could be worn for black tie, but only the Prince Charlie (or a doublet) for white tie.

Three button waistcoat and bowtie for black or white tie (in the appropriate color of course), five button with a regular 'four-in-hand' tie.

I used to think that at first, but I was wrong. It is a bit confusing because you can dress down one step in formality and still be acceptable.

I was only saying that a Prince Charlie, and I'm going by the description of the components, does not look like a tuxedo with the tails chopped off and the satin buttons replaced with silver buttons in the same number and place. I can't look at the pictures, so I may be completely wrong.

I know now that the PC is worn when a tuxedo would be worn, so I'm not argueing about that; just that anything worn with a tux would not necessarily work with a PC.

[Highland Logan]

Now my thought was that an Argyle with the metal buttons was the equivalent of a tuxedo (dinner) jacket, while a Prince Charlie was the equivalent of a tailcoat. Either could be worn for black tie, but only the Prince Charlie (or a doublet) for white tie.

Three button waistcoat and bowtie for black or white tie (in the appropriate color of course), five button with a regular 'four-in-hand' tie.

An Argyle jacket is equivalent to Morning Dress, but can.. with a black bow tie, sub for Evening Dress. Or so this is what I have been led to believe. how this helps.

Frank

[Ayin McFye]

Ayin,

Also remember in a martini

It is either 1 olive or 2 cocktail onions!



Cheers

Jamie

LOL. Does that math continue as you add olives? If you normally put 3 Olives in your martini, should you use 6 Cocktail onions instead if you're out of olives?

[Panache]

LOL. Does that math continue as you add olives? If you normally put 3 Olives in your martini, should you use 6 Cocktail onions instead if you're out of olives?

Ayin,

Maybe it is best that you don't drink gin

Cheers

Jamie

[Ayin McFye]

Ayin,

Maybe it is best that you don't drink gin

Cheers

Jamie

HAHAHA. I couldn't agree with you more.

[ccga3359]

Ayin,

Also remember in a martini

It is either 1 olive or 2 cocktail onions!



Cheers

Jamie

Then there's the Creole Scream debacle:
4 cl white rum
2 cl dry vermouth
1 dash Angostura® bitters
1 cl grenadine syrup
1 green olive or is it 2?

Lord Brett Sinclair vehemently disaproves of 2 olives whereas Danny Wylde suggest 2 so that they can "gently bounce up against each other", "Why bust up a pair?"

Jamie whom is correct?