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25th September 10, 12:12 PM
#1
Your friend doesn't sound as if he would wear a kilt even if he was a highlander himself!
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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25th September 10, 12:36 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Jordan
That sounds interesting care to expand?
Not that it is relevant to this discussion specifically but... its the fallacy where an assertion is made that a scotsman would never do something and when an example to the contrary is found the assertion is that that person is no TRUE scotsman. Usually the initial assertion is begging the question and the speaker falls into NTS by refusing to acknowledge the initial fallacy.
the No True Scotsman Fallacy was one of the couple dozen fallacies that I remember studying in college.
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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25th September 10, 12:49 PM
#3
That kind of made sence I think.
[Now back to your regurlarly scheduled topic]
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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25th September 10, 05:27 PM
#4
OK, the topic is pretty much optional by now...
The topic being optional and I having little to add to it, I will observe that these nice stripey ties are on sale for just $13 American:
http://www.landsend.com/pp/MensWideS...5&origin=index
OK, so one is blue and red and MIGHT be considered a Guards' stripe, but there are several other options. Lands End sells nice ties and they may have a free shipping deal going.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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25th September 10, 09:57 PM
#5
Hmmmm
I attended a lecture during the National Gaelic Mod, when the Lecturer, a Gael said that no true Gael (Highlander) needs to, or should wear the kilt, as their 'Highlandness' was their birthright, and they had no need to show it with Tartan, the Gaelic language was the true sign of a Highlander.
He and others also suggest, that myself and people like me ie learners of gaelic, should not be speaking the language, that only true Gaels should use the language.
The Lecturer is a prominent Announcer on Gaelic Radio.
I can only say, what a bigotted and short sighted view that is, Gaelic will die if we do not have learners of the language, and kilt wearing would have been extinct today apart from the kilted Regiments if it were not for the people outside of the Highlands, and indeed outside of Scotland.
I would suggest not to listen to this claptrap, it represents a view of a tiny minority of narrow minded people, it is certainly not the view of the VAST majority of people - Gaels or otherwise in Scotland. Keep on Kilting......
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26th September 10, 02:25 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Urchurdan
I would suggest not to listen to this claptrap, it represents a view of a tiny minority of narrow minded people, it is certainly not the view of the VAST majority of people
here here
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26th September 10, 04:50 AM
#7
Not to mention that all the woolen mills that produce the tartan cloth would be forced to shut down for lack of business...
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26th September 10, 10:10 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
Not to mention that all the woolen mills that produce the tartan cloth would be forced to shut down for lack of business...
Matt always hits the nail in rrrright on it's head.
The "b----y foriegners" business is a delicate... and tiresome one.
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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7th October 10, 01:48 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
Not to mention that all the woolen mills that produce the tartan cloth would be forced to shut down for lack of business...
And where are (were) the majority of those woollen mills? In The Borders (Lowlands!) Wearing 'The Kilt' ceased to be regarded as the exclusive right of Highlanders a long time ago (probably from the time of King George 1V's visit to Endinburgh in 1822). It is now regarded as the National Dress of all Scotsmen (including those 'in exile'). Also, I would imagine that most of the decendants of the old Highlanders either emigrated or migrated south, so most of us probably have some 'Highland' blood coursing through our veins (I know I do). Having said that we must never forget the origins of 'Highland' Dress, and every time we wear the kilt we are paying homage to those proud 'Heilan' men' to whom this special form of dress ment so much.
Last edited by freddie; 8th October 10 at 12:37 PM.
Reason: Amended version
The Kilt is my delight !
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26th September 10, 05:48 AM
#10
Gentlemen,
Thank you for your replies! I already had my own ideas on this, (That kilts and kilt business, as Matt just mentioned, would soon die out.)
To me, the important thing is If we lowlanders and "B...... foriegners" wear the kilt, we should wear it well, taking advice, not in a manner that makes anyone cringe!
My pal did go on to say that the True kilt was in some peril, from all the cheap shoddy merchandise peddled these days.
I think without wearers outside the highlands, that "peril" the kilt is in, would soon become death throes...
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