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26th November 06, 05:07 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by MacWage
...I hope the old Casino Royale is/will be on DVD. When I get that, I'll have EVERY Bond movie on DVD (even the 2 bad ones).
MacWage,
Since you didn't post to this thread,
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22246
I am most curious which are the 2 bad ones?
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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26th November 06, 06:17 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by Panache
I am most curious which are the 2 bad ones?
Cheers
The "bad ones", Casino Royale (Sellers/Niven) and Never Say Never.
What I saw on the first was closer to Austin Powers than the cinematic Bond. As it is SO far from the "Classic" Bond, many bond-fanatics see it as a travesty.
The Second is just bad production quality and mediocre writing, even given the good actors in it.
Such is the opinion of most Bond afficianatos (sp?), I (at least in part) agree.
As for the other thread, I read it and enjoyed the different opinions. My opinions are just too complex for the questions and the nature of forums. my answers would be HUGE. I like points of each movie and actor, but dislike others. Each has their place in the genre and meeds to be kept in context of time, place, and ongoing concurrent events. Connery set the stage and a high bar. Lazenby was good, but SO different than Connery, he was doomed from the start. His movie was almost an anomoly as the crew sought a possible new direction for the series. While many HATE it, it is one of my favorite. Moore is great for the 70s and early 80s (and fits that era VERY WELL), while Dalton brought the series more "street cred" (while the quips are PAINFULLY delivered). I like the characterization of Brosnan, as he manages to fuse versions together into a good character with the style, quips, and cred that the others brought and would be a hard act to follow. The series had SO much baggage that they did well with the homage to Bonds of the past with Die Another Day, while the new Casino Royale provides a good reset for the plots, without a Spectre and Blofield in the past. It takes what the character has become and starts there with THAT essence, Aston DB5 and all, to go into the new century.
-Hope that gives a brief hint, Panache.
Now, back to topic on Bond and kilts.
It will be interesting if they get Bond back into a kilt in the upcoming movies, especially as they (kilts) are becoming more common internationally and more visible in the UK.
Also, there are kilts, pipers, and a Scottish castle in The World is Not Enough as MI6 regathers itself after the infiltration and explosion at their London HQ. Also, Bond himself, is in a suit and not a kilt.
On a WHOLE other note, Bond was a Royal Navy Commander and appears in full dress uniform in You Only Live Twice (Connery), The Spy Who Loved Me (Moore), and Tomorrow Never dies (Brosnan). In James Bond: The Secret World of 007 (written Alastair Dougall, illustrated Roger Stewart, published by DK), they say "Bond remains proud of his naval career."(p. 10) And: "His shoes are always polished-a reminder of his military background." (p. 12)
As to what he actually DID in the navy, it is not addressed as far as I am awarein any movie. What about the novels?
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26th November 06, 09:33 PM
#23
James Bond
GOOD DAY, I have enjoyed the various Bond films, but I found that the parts were the actor was kiled was the only good parts of this film. Both the banter at the meal and Bond finding the message in lipstck on his thigh from the young lady was very funny and very Bond. The rest of the film rather lame. GOOD DAY Wes
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26th November 06, 09:44 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by Nick
there's obviously a reason he was only Bond once (in this case, you only live once).
He was only Bond once because he turned down the part for a second time (he was afraid of being type cast, and it was a little sexist for the times - his words)
 Originally Posted by MacWage
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Now that the "reset" Bond continuity has begun with a new Casino Royale (no kilts), I hope the old Casino Royale is/will be on DVD. When I get that, I'll have EVERY Bond movie on DVD (even the 2 bad ones).
I saw "Casino Royale" on DVD at some store earlier this week - don't remember where.
Adam
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27th November 06, 04:49 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by Nick
He'd better look good in it: he was a male model. I saw it for the first time on Thanksgiving, and while I loved Bond in a kilt and smoking a pipe, there's obviously a reason he was only Bond once (in this case, you only live once).
It looked to me like he was wearing a Prince Charlie and a vest. He wasn't wearing a Montrose, that's a full double breasted jacket.
It's definitely not a PC - will have to check the DVD again re the Montrose.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
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27th November 06, 02:15 PM
#26
I wasn't sure about if it was a PC or some other kind of jacket, but I'm pretty sure it's not a Montrose or Shermiffur (I'm also pretty sure that's spelled wrong :blush: )
MacWage, I understand that there are now three "Casino Royal"s, the new one, the Niven one, and the old B&W TV version. I'm getting my info from www.bondmovies.com.
Cheers,
Nick
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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27th November 06, 03:25 PM
#27
 Originally Posted by wesd
GOOD DAY, I have enjoyed the various Bond films, but I found that the parts were the actor was kiled was the only good parts of this film.
I think Diana Rigg had some good parts in that film as well.
Sapienter si sincere Clan Davidson (USA)
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27th November 06, 04:02 PM
#28
I always thought it so sad they way they bumped her off
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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27th November 06, 04:21 PM
#29
Perhaps you'd rathr have THIS "Casino Royale"...
http://www.amazon.com/Casino-Royale-...?ie=UTF8&s=dvd
...anybody remember this one?
Best
AA
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27th November 06, 06:08 PM
#30
 Originally Posted by McClef
I always thought it so sad they way they bumped her off 
I prefer to think of it as that only Mrs. Peel was a true match for James Bond. Such perfection on this mortal coil is fleeting at best. It makes wonderful sense that forever after, Bond shall romance the various lovely ladies, but never again find his soul mate. (Says Panache who is a romantic sentimental fool at heart and finds "Young Sherlock Holmes" romantic for the very same reasons as OHMSS.
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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