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22nd August 07, 02:45 PM
#1
mcfarkus,
Not a bad insight for your first post.
Welcome to X Marks the Scot!
(Sibling peer pressure is a beautiful thing!)
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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22nd August 07, 06:39 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by mkfarkus
I'm a first time poster although I've been lurking for some months (my account shows three posts, but those were made by my brother, Turpin, when he logged on at our mother's computer). I like all the suggestions except "by choice not blood."
I also think serious consideration should be given to having the motto in English. Historically, the reason for having a motto in Latin was that Latin was universally understood. That's why the Roman Catholic church had mass in Latin up until about 1970. Latin was the language of treaties and diplomacy until about the 17th century when French became the "lingua franca" of the world. English is now the "lingua franca" whereas something written in Latin tends to obscure the meaning.
I am not yet kilted, but Turpin is slowly wearing me down. I believe there is a kilt (or possibly several) in my future.
"Well, Hello, There!"
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
(I'm Turpin's weird friend in South Carolina who LOVES box pleat kilts.)
Back to topic:
Personally, I have no issues with "By Choice, Not Blood" in EITHER English, Latin or Gaelic.
My purpose is to help us get the most appropriate phrase/slogan possible.
If we go a different direction than "By Choice . . ." I's suggest making it kilt related (as that is the rally at X Marks).
Ex: Kilts By Choice/By Choice, Kilted
(slight variants based upon the "Per Electum" theme)
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22nd August 07, 07:17 PM
#3
When I first saw "By Choice, not Blood" I thought that is was great. But as I reflect on it, I think that it may appear to show a competitive attitude toward the "traditional" clans. (After all, we are a kind of "New Era" clan.)
I think that "In Kilted Fellowship" expresses what we are -- the express purpose of this forum. Fellowship to me is a "brotherly" friendship. Kind of like fraternity. We are a fraternity of those who love the kilt.
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22nd August 07, 07:40 PM
#4
Perhaps time for another poll Jamie I'm thinking that I'm seeing a winner in the midst.
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22nd August 07, 09:20 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by Josh_E
I like "In Kilted Fellowship" but I also think that "It's not a skirt" would do nicely as well. 
Shouldn't "It's not a skirt" be the battle cry? I'm for "In Kilted Fellowship" too.
Be well,
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22nd August 07, 10:11 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by The F-H.C.A.G.
Shouldn't "It's not a skirt" be the battle cry? I'm for "In Kilted Fellowship" too.
Be well,
Ahh yes, Your right. It makes far better battle cry. We will scream it at the tops of our lungs as we go into to battle against the soldiers of trouser tyranny. Along with, "THIS IS XMARKS!"
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22nd August 07, 10:35 PM
#7
I really like the sound of "In Kilts, Fellowship" better than "In Kilted Fellowship." Given that the concept is to create a motto for our neo-clan, I think it better expresses the idea that our common interest in the kilt has drawn us together, and created a new bond between us. Also to me it sounds more clan motto-ish.
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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23rd August 07, 12:21 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by The F-H.C.A.G.
Shouldn't "It's not a skirt" be the battle cry? I'm for "In Kilted Fellowship" too.
Be well,
I still think our battle cry should be "Kiss my pleats!"
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23rd August 07, 09:21 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey
I still think our battle cry should be "Kiss my pleats!"
I don't know, it just doesn't seem very welcoming to me. It comes across as too confrontational. I would think we want something showing unity, which will make people want to find out who we are and what we are about. We also want something that will make them want to be a part of our "clan".
Edit, that's just my two bits. I tend to agree with Phil that by the time everyone agrees the motto will be neutered to fit everyone's sensitivities.
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4th October 07, 12:41 PM
#10
Kiss my pleats!!!!
 Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey
I still think our battle cry should be "Kiss my pleats!"
ROTFLMAO
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