Gaelic translation needed-tat advice as well

[sfb]

I think everything Tobus said is absolutely the best advice you could get about the tattoo itself.

And you'll probably know the design when you see it. Mind you, my last one came about after a vague reference to a "sort of celtic knot lion rampant" thing. The vague reference was made within earshot of my mate's brother in law, who is, as it happens, a tattoo artist...



NB - that limited amount of design research is not appropriate for everybody!

[ccga3359]

Sir, I hear your opinion and choose to disregard it. If all you want to do is come in a thread clearly marked about tattoos and say that you think that they are "faddish" I would appreciate if you save your remarks.

It would appear that now tats are fads and I would agree with that statement. When I got my first tattoo 27 years ago it most certainly not a mainstream thing and not where soccer moms and professionals alike are running out to get a trendy tattoo. You did ask for advice and those of us that are tattooed will give it. We are not saying don't get one we are saying make sure you want one, make sure you put thought into it, make sure you you realize that you'll be wearing it (or a scar of it) for the rest of your life. This is the first piece of advice any inked person will give.

You've heard a one or two negative comments by people that don't like tattoos, thats just a small sample of reactions we'd get two decades ago. Also allow me that in the almost 3 decades of being tattooed there has not been one single day that I've regretted having them. They are a part of me and signify personal chapters in my life.

Consider this (my highlight):

The newest thing on my mind this week is that I am considering getting a tattoo in celebration of my graduation from school next week.

Opening a thread like this is going to generate a lot of advice for and against. To be brusque to WClarkB because his comments do not agree with your thoughts suggest to me at least that perhaps you are not ready for a tattoo.

You mention a "Glorious history of tattoos in the Navy" I sincerly hope that this is not even a minor reason for you to get inked because one can also say that there is a glorious history of tattoos in the outlaw biker gangs.

I'm not here to dissuade you from getting a tattoo, in fact I do believe that you are on the right path as you are considering a design of something that is very important to you and will mean something to you 60 years on. Spur of the moment thing - don't do it. A lot of thought and time considering it - get it and welcome to the brotherhood.

Now post your design ideas.

[slohairt]

Thanks, I am looking for something similar to the word soul, heart is just a phrase that we use in English (not as an organ). What phrasing would be the best to get the meaning correct. I dont know that i care if it is perfectly translatable to English, i just am looking for a Gaelic phrase with the same/similar meaning.

Yes, I am aware of that. However that is what is used as Gaeilge. The word for 'soul' is anam. (In any of the three Goidelic languages.) Quite unrelated.

[Deil the Yin]

Sweet Tat, man! It's hard to tell though (I think it's the lighting)... is that inscribed on your calf, or a denuded tree trunk?

This is my latest piece. Crossed thistle and claymore with family tartan (MacGregor) in the targe.

[berserkbishop]

It would appear that now tats are fads and I would agree with that statement. When I got my first tattoo 27 years ago it most certainly not a mainstream thing and not where soccer moms and professionals alike are running out to get a trendy tattoo. You did ask for advice and those of us that are tattooed will give it. We are not saying don't get one we are saying make sure you want one, make sure you put thought into it, make sure you you realize that you'll be wearing it (or a scar of it) for the rest of your life. This is the first piece of advice any inked person will give.

You've heard a one or two negative comments by people that don't like tattoos, thats just a small sample of reactions we'd get two decades ago. Also allow me that in the almost 3 decades of being tattooed there has not been one single day that I've regretted having them. They are a part of me and signify personal chapters in my life.

Consider this (my highlight):



Opening a thread like this is going to generate a lot of advice for and against. To be brusque to WClarkB because his comments do not agree with your thoughts suggest to me at least that perhaps you are not ready for a tattoo.

You mention a "Glorious history of tattoos in the Navy" I sincerly hope that this is not even a minor reason for you to get inked because one can also say that there is a glorious history of tattoos in the outlaw biker gangs.

I'm not here to dissuade you from getting a tattoo, in fact I do believe that you are on the right path as you are considering a design of something that is very important to you and will mean something to you 60 years on. Spur of the moment thing - don't do it. A lot of thought and time considering it - get it and welcome to the brotherhood.

Now post your design ideas.

I dont believe I was being out of line at all. I asked for advice on design, and simply let him know that I did not need his remarks on his personal feeling regarding ink. I have been considering getting a tattoo for nearly a year now, I just recently started to think about it seriously again.

Me asking for advice on design is just throwing idea against a wall to see what sticks, if anything. I doesnt mean that I am going to go out and tomorrow and get the first bright idea that popped into my head as a tat because it seemed like the "cool" thing to do

Sorry to turn this into an argument, but if all you want to do is chide me for considering a tattoo then please dont post here. All I was asking for was a translation, (thanks Slohairt) and some design ideas and feedback. If we cant leave it at that I will just have the mods close this thread down before it gets nasty and realise that this forum is not a welcome place for my questions on tattoos.

Thanks Mikey for the pic, that was exactly the tat I was looking for and I really like that rampant lion with the knot work. More stuff to chew over in my head.

[SteveB]

MM3 Bishop,

You have received translation from Slohairt. I will be happy to give my tuppence on the tat. I am no artist.

My brainstorm is a Saltire, with a banner under it with the slogan in Gahldig, and a swatch of tartan with the Cunningham buckle and crest centered on it. Having the three distinct pieces of who you are neatly displayed would do well. Kind of Saltire flag over banner over Cunningham "flag". This is my thought on the matter, is that there are three distinct "sections", one could be drawn and inked at a time, if you wished, without the design looking goofy.

My knowledge of you and your personality is limited to our discourse on this forum. I have no ink, that is by my choice, as I do not have an ink personality. I am all for ink on a person that is tasteful and reflects who they are. I am as proud of my MacNeil as you are of your Cunningham.

I also am proud to have served our country, and know that many of my fellow Airmen, Soldiers, Sailors and Marines have traditionally sported ink that both reflects who they are and their pride in the service.

On this Veteran's Day, I truly welcome you into the fold of the proudly serving and proud to have served. This day is in honour of both. Thank you for your service.

[Tobus]

It would appear that now tats are fads and I would agree with that statement.

Yeah, I heard that tattoos were a "fad" too when I got my first one 15 years ago. I wish people would stop saying that. A fad is something that everybody gets all hyped up about for a short while and then it falls out of fashion and goes away. Seasonal clothing trends are fads. But it seems clear that tattoos among mainstream society are here to stay, which means they are not simply a fad. The younger generation sees tattoos as more 'normal' than the older generation does, and they accept tattoos. This mentality will likely stay with them as they age; they're not going to wake up one day and decide tattoos should go back in the proverbial closet.

Sorry if this post is a threadjack, but it's one of those phrases that has annoyed me ever since I first heard it. Just because tattoos have become mainstream does not make them a fad. Certain types of tattoos could be fads, but I honestly don't see the popularity of tattoos waning at all. It's only gotten more popular since I started paying attention 15 years ago when I got my first.

[berserkbishop]

Yeah, I heard that tattoos were a "fad" too when I got my first one 15 years ago. I wish people would stop saying that. A fad is something that everybody gets all hyped up about for a short while and then it falls out of fashion and goes away. Seasonal clothing trends are fads. But it seems clear that tattoos among mainstream society are here to stay, which means they are not simply a fad. The younger generation sees tattoos as more 'normal' than the older generation does, and they accept tattoos. This mentality will likely stay with them as they age; they're not going to wake up one day and decide tattoos should go back in the proverbial closet.

Sorry if this post is a threadjack, but it's one of those phrases that has annoyed me ever since I first heard it. Just because tattoos have become mainstream does not make them a fad. Certain types of tattoos could be fads, but I honestly don't see the popularity of tattoos waning at all. It's only gotten more popular since I started paying attention 15 years ago when I got my first.

I dont mind the thread jack at all since it is precisely what I meant when I said the Navy had a long history of tattoos. That is not a fad, it is part of the culture just as tattoos being more readily accepted by my generation is part of the culture.

Over all though, that is not what I wanted this thread to turn into, though it has gone that direction. Any more posts of rampant lion, or any Celtic tattoos would be appreciated.

[thescot]

I dont believe I was being out of line at all. . . ..

With all the respect due to one so wizened and obviously knowledgeable in the things of the world--after all, you are about to graduate--you are wrong. Well meaning people who have spent many years gaining experience and wisdom have offered you their best advice in the hope of being your friends and helping you to do well, and you have rudely told them to shove it.

So, you are correct. You are a grown; do as you wish. But to spit in the eye of those who would attempt to offer friendly advice is out of line, and it does not speak well of your maturity.

[thescot]

Having upbraided, let me now make a peace offering of a bunch of photos of Scottish tattoos for your consideration. There are 105 on this site, and some are very nice.

http://www.ratemyink.com/?action=sr&...tish%20tattoos