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26th September 10, 06:41 AM
#1
I was disappointed when I first came to the States not to find cowboys.
I was disappointed when I first went to Scotland not find kilts.
In an perfect world, I'd agree with Jock on this; I wish the lovely regionalisms of speech, garment, and food were intact.
We can only blame that ubiquitous purveyor of the hamburger and symbolism of creeping globalism: Mcdonalds.
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26th September 10, 06:52 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by MacBean
I was disappointed when I first came to the States not to find cowboys.
I was disappointed when I first went to Scotland not find kilts.
In an perfect world, I'd agree with Jock on this; I wish the lovely regionalisms of speech, garment, and food were intact.
We can only blame that ubiquitous purveyor of the hamburger and symbolism of creeping globalism: Mcdonalds. 
Aye, but don't forget Hollywood, Nike, air travel and the internet.
Regional variation existed because people "didn't get around". In a closed system you have that Darwinian specialization to better perform within your specific group and surroundings. You ate what was around you, wore what was made nearby, and everyone started to use the same jargon/slang.
As much as I hate the food-service-mass-produced-generic-trainers-levis-blandness that has effected the most of the modern world, I don't want to go back to eating nothing but potatoes, onions, cabbages, pickles and apples all winter (because they were the only things that would keep).
ith:
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27th September 10, 06:25 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by MacBean
I was disappointed when I first came to the States not to find cowboys.
Methinks you didn't come to the right part! There are plenty of 'em around here...
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30th September 10, 03:56 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Micric
My pal did go on to say that the True kilt was in some peril
That makes me recall the "No True Kilt" fallacy we discussed in the Logic class I took in college many moons ago, and happily forgot all about until just now...
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30th September 10, 09:08 AM
#5
This guy's attitude is right out of the 16th-18th centuries, when Highlanders were dimly viewed by Lowlanders as violent, oddly dressed, foreign-speaking, mountain-dwelling barbarians - NOT as fellow countrymen. Strange to note remnants of that prejudice still in existence...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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30th September 10, 11:43 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
That makes me recall the "No True Kilt" fallacy we discussed in the Logic class I took in college many moons ago, and happily forgot all about until just now... 
Well played, sir.
*golf clap*
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26th September 10, 01:46 PM
#7
This isn't exactly a new idea. After all, in The Devil's Dictionary, published c. 1906, Ambrose Bierce famously defined our favored garment thusly:
KILT, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotchmen in America and Americans in Scotland.
So, tell them that the wearing of the kilt by "demmed furriners" has a provenance of at least a hundred years.
"To the make of a piper go seven years of his own learning, and seven generations before. At the end of his seven years one born to it will stand at the start of knowledge, and leaning a fond ear to the drone he may have parley with old folks of old affairs." - Neil Munro
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1st October 10, 10:44 AM
#8
A previous poster referred to the population mobility of the last few decades. On my last visit to the western Highlands virtually the only accents I heard were those of London and south east England (wealthy incomers) or Dutch and German tourists; very few locals. On top of that many of the younger generation have moved elsewhere for work or career. Demographically the old divisions are, to a great extent, melting away.
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1st October 10, 11:27 AM
#9
I have to answer as someone who was brought up in the Lowlands but whose family are from the highlands for as far back as we can trace.
Nonsense!
It's an outdated opinion coming from the sort of person who would laugh at anything he considered old fashioned and thus 'backwards.'
No offence to you or your friend, but it's nonsense.
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2nd October 10, 06:40 AM
#10
Arlen,
I don't take offens at much!.....and my pals still a pal whatever his views, so all is well!
Cheers,
R.
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